Hi Sebb,

I don't think my message was understood.

> On Jul 7, 2022, at 04:22, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 03:52, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm happy to write a patch if you can give me a hint where the code is that 
>> looks at reserved-ids so I can write an update to the red box.
> 
> Note that re-using a reserved ID could mess up code provenance -
> effectively it means someone can take over someone else's ID.
> Not exactly identity theft, but with many of the same potential consequences.

I understand that a reserved id cannot be used again. That was not what I was 
asking for.
> 
> Sorry, but I see no valid reason to differentiate why an id is
> disallowed, so doing research on it is work I don't wish to undertake.

Again, I am not asking for the reason that an id is reserved, just the fact 
that it is.
> 
> If you wish to know personally whether an entry is in the reserved
> list or not, just look at the file which I think is a sibling to
> iclas.txt.

All i'm asking for is that if a user requests an id that is reserved, that the 
secretary tool add a line to the response "The id requested is not available. 
Please contact the (P)PMC with a different id." and add a red box "The id is 
not available. Continue?"

The secretary tool is supposed to be a help to the secretary/assistant. Having 
mysterious red boxes with no obvious way for the user to tell what is happening 
is a bug.

Regards,
Craig
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>> On Jul 6, 2022, at 16:05, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 at 23:53, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the explanation. How do we prevent it in future?
>> 
>> 
>> How often does it occur?
>> 
>> Can we add reserved names to https://people.apache.org/committer-index.html 
>> which is where we send people to check if their preferred id is already 
>> available?
>> Perhaps entries like this:
>> SVN ID Name
>> jacek <reserved>
>> 
>> And surely we can add a red box warning for the secretary to understand that 
>> this is a reserved name? Warning: the requested id is in the 
>> reserved-ids.yml list.
>> (Proceed anyway?)
>> 
>> 
>> Does it really matter why the id is invalid?
>> 
>> Whatever the reason, it cannot be used.
>> 
>> Seems like completely unnecessary work, given how infrequent this is.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>> On Jul 6, 2022, at 14:48, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Because it is not allowed.
>> 
>> See reserved-ids.yml
>> 
>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 at 19:14, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I filled the form and the committer id should be jacek. But the field is red 
>> and it does not try to request the account.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> c...@apache.org
>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> c...@apache.org
>> 

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org

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