On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:11:20 +0000 Michael Forney <mfor...@mforney.org> wrote: Hey Michael,
thanks for your response! I'm glad to get some remarks from a real Wayland-expert (I'm far from that) and be able to have more insight into the topic. > Sure, many compositors will use EGL, but that doesn't make it a > requirement. > (...) > Additionally, software rendering using pixman will work for nearly all > systems, and is fast enough from my experience. It's a surprise to me, as I really thought Wayland was "built" on EGL. Thanks for clearing that up! > I agree that Mesa should not be a hard requirement for a functioning > window system. However, it makes sense to utilize it if it is available > on the system. As I said, Mesa 3d is perfectly fine considering where the Linux-desktop is heading to. I concur. > In swc, I just draw borders for all windows. The window manager can > specify a border width and color for each window, just like in X. My st > and dmenu ports do nothing in terms of borders/window decorations (same > as they currently work in X). > Now, as far as other applications go, Gtk+ currently draws these massive > decorations around everything when running under Wayland. Given that the > Qt/KDE guys want to use server-side decorations, I'm sure that there > will be some setting you can disable to get rid of the borders (maybe > there already is, I haven't looked into it). > I'm in agreement that Weston is not the way to go. I think it would be > quite difficult to add server-side borders to the existing Weston > code-base, and would almost certainly not be accepted upstream. If that's just a matter of implementation, this isn't really a problem. > I don't think it is so important to make a decision as much as to be > aware of all the possibilities. > Also, while I'm happy that swc is getting attention, it is perhaps > happening just a little too early; don't expect to be able to try it out > right now, I have a lot of changes pending in my working tree which I > hope to get committed over the next few days. Additionally, there are a > couple of final things I need to finish up (mainly VT switching). Do the work you think is necessary for a well-polished product. Wayland won't run away and X is not dead-on-arrival. In the long run, X won't leave us in the next few years, thus, seeing such mature project like yours makes me feel happy inside ;). Cheers and happy hacking! FRIGN -- FRIGN <d...@frign.de>
