Asaf, Il giorno mer 22 feb 2023 alle ore 14:19 Asaf Mesika <asaf.mes...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > Wondering out loud if there are generic UI for message brokers?
Unfortunately the only "standard" API to access Messaging services is JMS but it is pretty limited as it allows only to produce and consume. Also a Pulsar UI should be able to allow the user to manage everything, and Pulsar has many cool features that are not available to many other systems, especially builtin multi-tenancy. Enrico > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 6:27 PM Kiryl Valkovich <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> > wrote: > > > Devin, > > > > The most desired feature I need as an event-driven application developer > > is the ability to read and filter messages in topics. > > With the NonDurable subscription type, it shouldn’t affect the topic’s > > data. > > > > The ability to easily produce a message or generate a bunch of them, based > > on some rules, allows me to quickly check how the application behaves in > > different scenarios. > > > > It’s also useful for the QA audience. > > > > From: Devin Bost <devin.b...@gmail.com> > > Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 4:58 PM > > To: Dev <dev@pulsar.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar? > > Kiryl, > > > > > Just make a side-by-side comparison of Pulsar Manager with any of the > > following options: > > > - Conduktor (Commercial). > > > - Kafka UI by Provectus (Apache License 2.0). > > > - Redpanda Console (ex-Kowl) (Mixed license). > > > > > > I see a significant gap in user experience between any of them and the > > Pulsar Manager. > > > > Thanks for bringing up this subject. You're making good points that we have > > a gap in this area. > > > > In your perspective, where do you think the biggest gaps are in terms of > > functionality? > > > > -- > > Devin Bost > > Sent from mobile > > Cell: 801-400-4602 > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:54 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 14:41 Kiryl Valkovich > > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > Enrico, it’s easy. > > > > > > > > When I tried it, the basic functionality just didn’t work. > > > > > > > > Just make a side-by-side comparison of Pulsar Manager with any of the > > > following options: > > > > - Conduktor (Commercial). > > > > - Kafka UI by Provectus (Apache License 2.0). > > > > - Redpanda Console (ex-Kowl) (Mixed license). > > > > > > > > I see a significant gap in user experience between any of them and the > > > Pulsar Manager. > > > > Also, I just don’t see much contribution activity. > > > > > > > > Redpanda Console and Kafka UI, each have about x10 times more commits > > in > > > a year, than Pulsar Manager has in the last 3 years. Therefore I can’t > > > conclude that the project is alive. > > > > > > (Unfortunately) I 100% agree with you. > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the “Why from scratch?” question: > > > > - I found it easier for me personally because of the different tech > > > stack I use. > > > > - Starting from scratch is a good opportunity to learn Pulsar itself. > > > > - I’d want to make a product around that. > > > > > > > > I'm not claiming that my result will be 100% better, but why not try? > > > > > > I understand your points. > > > I hope you will share your project with OSS license, this way it will > > > be easier for Pulsar users to try it out and contribute. > > > > > > > > If someone is already doing or plans to do similar work, let’s > > > collaborate! > > > > > > Thanks for sharing > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > From: Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:04 PM > > > > To: dev@pulsar.apache.org <dev@pulsar.apache.org> > > > > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar? > > > > Kiryl, > > > > > > > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 12:18 Kiryl Valkovich > > > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > > Enrico, it seems you read only the mail message title. > > > > > > > > Sorry about that, > > > > I have re-read the message, and I have just realised that I skipped > > > > the very first line :-) > > > > > > > > I have one question. > > > > IIUC you started from scratch a new UI, could you please explain why > > > > Pulsar Manager doesn't work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:59 AM > > > > > To: dev@pulsar.apache.org <dev@pulsar.apache.org> > > > > > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar? > > > > > Kiryl, > > > > > > > > > > You can use the official Apache Pulsar Manager the is maintained by > > > > > this community > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar-manager > > > > > > > > > > At DataStax we also maintain this other UI that is also 100% > > opensource > > > > > https://github.com/datastax/pulsar-admin-console > > > > > > > > > > For the BookKeeper part there is BKVM (BookKeeper Visual Manager) > > > > > https://github.com/diennea/bookkeeper-visual-manager > > > > > This is also bundled with Apache Pulsar Manager > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that helps > > > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 10:51 Kiryl Valkovich > > > > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone personally or some company work on UI for Pulsar other > > > than pulsar-manager or pulsar-admin-console? > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that StreamNative and DataStax have managed solutions > > > and obviously work on their UI. > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather looking for an open-source or commercial tool that can be > > > used in pair with any Pulsar deployment. > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent some time implementing UI for Apache Pulsar. It’s not ready > > > to release yet. As usual, the most difficult 20% of the work remained. > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m asking that to avoid situations when several people or teams > > are > > > doing the same thing. > > > > > > Recently I proposed the site redesign and some teams are already > > > doing that as it’s figured out. > > > > > > > > > > > > See Asaf’s comment: > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar-site/pull/426#issuecomment-1436589392 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please at least DM me if it’s not public information yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also DM me if you think that we can try to cooperate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > >
