Kiryl,

> Just make a side-by-side comparison of Pulsar Manager with any of the
following options:
> - Conduktor (Commercial).
> - Kafka UI by Provectus (Apache License 2.0).
> - Redpanda Console (ex-Kowl) (Mixed license).
>
> I see a significant gap in user experience between any of them and the
Pulsar Manager.

Thanks for bringing up this subject. You're making good points that we have
a gap in this area.

In your perspective, where do you think the biggest gaps are in terms of
functionality?

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On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:54 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 14:41 Kiryl Valkovich
> <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto:
> >
> > Enrico, it’s easy.
> >
> > When I tried it, the basic functionality just didn’t work.
> >
> > Just make a side-by-side comparison of Pulsar Manager with any of the
> following options:
> > - Conduktor (Commercial).
> > - Kafka UI by Provectus (Apache License 2.0).
> > - Redpanda Console (ex-Kowl) (Mixed license).
> >
> > I see a significant gap in user experience between any of them and the
> Pulsar Manager.
> > Also, I just don’t see much contribution activity.
> >
> > Redpanda Console and Kafka UI, each have about x10 times more commits in
> a year, than Pulsar Manager has in the last 3 years. Therefore I can’t
> conclude that the project is alive.
>
> (Unfortunately) I 100% agree with you.
>
> >
> > Regarding the “Why from scratch?” question:
> > - I found it easier for me personally because of the different tech
> stack I use.
> > - Starting from scratch is a good opportunity to learn Pulsar itself.
> > - I’d want to make a product around that.
> >
> > I'm not claiming that my result will be 100% better, but why not try?
>
> I understand your points.
> I hope you will share your project with OSS license, this way it will
> be easier for Pulsar users to try it out and contribute.
> >
> > If someone is already doing or plans to do similar work, let’s
> collaborate!
>
> Thanks for sharing
>
> Enrico
>
> >
> > From: Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:04 PM
> > To: dev@pulsar.apache.org <dev@pulsar.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar?
> > Kiryl,
> >
> > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 12:18 Kiryl Valkovich
> > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto:
> > >
> > > Enrico, it seems you read only the mail message title.
> >
> > Sorry about that,
> > I have re-read the message, and I have just realised that I skipped
> > the very first line :-)
> >
> > I have one question.
> > IIUC you started from scratch a new UI, could you please explain why
> > Pulsar Manager doesn't work for you?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Enrico
> >
> > >
> > > From: Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:59 AM
> > > To: dev@pulsar.apache.org <dev@pulsar.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar?
> > > Kiryl,
> > >
> > > You can use the official Apache Pulsar Manager the is maintained by
> > > this community
> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar-manager
> > >
> > > At DataStax we also maintain this other UI that is also 100% opensource
> > > https://github.com/datastax/pulsar-admin-console
> > >
> > > For the BookKeeper part there is BKVM (BookKeeper Visual Manager)
> > > https://github.com/diennea/bookkeeper-visual-manager
> > > This is also bundled with Apache Pulsar Manager
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope that helps
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 10:51 Kiryl Valkovich
> > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone!
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone personally or some company work on UI for Pulsar other
> than pulsar-manager or pulsar-admin-console?
> > > >
> > > > I understand that StreamNative and DataStax have managed solutions
> and obviously work on their UI.
> > > >
> > > > I rather looking for an open-source or commercial tool that can be
> used in pair with any Pulsar deployment.
> > > >
> > > > I spent some time implementing UI for Apache Pulsar. It’s not ready
> to release yet. As usual, the most difficult 20% of the work remained.
> > > >
> > > > I’m asking that to avoid situations when several people or teams are
> doing the same thing.
> > > > Recently I proposed the site redesign and some teams are already
> doing that as it’s figured out.
> > > >
> > > > See Asaf’s comment:
> > > >
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar-site/pull/426#issuecomment-1436589392
> > > >
> > > > Please at least DM me if it’s not public information yet.
> > > >
> > > > Also DM me if you think that we can try to cooperate.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
>

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