Wondering out loud if there are generic UI for message brokers? On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 6:27 PM Kiryl Valkovich <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> wrote:
> Devin, > > The most desired feature I need as an event-driven application developer > is the ability to read and filter messages in topics. > With the NonDurable subscription type, it shouldn’t affect the topic’s > data. > > The ability to easily produce a message or generate a bunch of them, based > on some rules, allows me to quickly check how the application behaves in > different scenarios. > > It’s also useful for the QA audience. > > From: Devin Bost <devin.b...@gmail.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 4:58 PM > To: Dev <dev@pulsar.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar? > Kiryl, > > > Just make a side-by-side comparison of Pulsar Manager with any of the > following options: > > - Conduktor (Commercial). > > - Kafka UI by Provectus (Apache License 2.0). > > - Redpanda Console (ex-Kowl) (Mixed license). > > > > I see a significant gap in user experience between any of them and the > Pulsar Manager. > > Thanks for bringing up this subject. You're making good points that we have > a gap in this area. > > In your perspective, where do you think the biggest gaps are in terms of > functionality? > > -- > Devin Bost > Sent from mobile > Cell: 801-400-4602 > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 8:54 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 14:41 Kiryl Valkovich > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto: > > > > > > Enrico, it’s easy. > > > > > > When I tried it, the basic functionality just didn’t work. > > > > > > Just make a side-by-side comparison of Pulsar Manager with any of the > > following options: > > > - Conduktor (Commercial). > > > - Kafka UI by Provectus (Apache License 2.0). > > > - Redpanda Console (ex-Kowl) (Mixed license). > > > > > > I see a significant gap in user experience between any of them and the > > Pulsar Manager. > > > Also, I just don’t see much contribution activity. > > > > > > Redpanda Console and Kafka UI, each have about x10 times more commits > in > > a year, than Pulsar Manager has in the last 3 years. Therefore I can’t > > conclude that the project is alive. > > > > (Unfortunately) I 100% agree with you. > > > > > > > > Regarding the “Why from scratch?” question: > > > - I found it easier for me personally because of the different tech > > stack I use. > > > - Starting from scratch is a good opportunity to learn Pulsar itself. > > > - I’d want to make a product around that. > > > > > > I'm not claiming that my result will be 100% better, but why not try? > > > > I understand your points. > > I hope you will share your project with OSS license, this way it will > > be easier for Pulsar users to try it out and contribute. > > > > > > If someone is already doing or plans to do similar work, let’s > > collaborate! > > > > Thanks for sharing > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > From: Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:04 PM > > > To: dev@pulsar.apache.org <dev@pulsar.apache.org> > > > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar? > > > Kiryl, > > > > > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 12:18 Kiryl Valkovich > > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > Enrico, it seems you read only the mail message title. > > > > > > Sorry about that, > > > I have re-read the message, and I have just realised that I skipped > > > the very first line :-) > > > > > > I have one question. > > > IIUC you started from scratch a new UI, could you please explain why > > > Pulsar Manager doesn't work for you? > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > From: Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2023 at 11:59 AM > > > > To: dev@pulsar.apache.org <dev@pulsar.apache.org> > > > > Subject: Re: Does anyone build UI for Pulsar? > > > > Kiryl, > > > > > > > > You can use the official Apache Pulsar Manager the is maintained by > > > > this community > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar-manager > > > > > > > > At DataStax we also maintain this other UI that is also 100% > opensource > > > > https://github.com/datastax/pulsar-admin-console > > > > > > > > For the BookKeeper part there is BKVM (BookKeeper Visual Manager) > > > > https://github.com/diennea/bookkeeper-visual-manager > > > > This is also bundled with Apache Pulsar Manager > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that helps > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Il giorno lun 20 feb 2023 alle ore 10:51 Kiryl Valkovich > > > > <kiryl_valkovich@teal.tools> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone personally or some company work on UI for Pulsar other > > than pulsar-manager or pulsar-admin-console? > > > > > > > > > > I understand that StreamNative and DataStax have managed solutions > > and obviously work on their UI. > > > > > > > > > > I rather looking for an open-source or commercial tool that can be > > used in pair with any Pulsar deployment. > > > > > > > > > > I spent some time implementing UI for Apache Pulsar. It’s not ready > > to release yet. As usual, the most difficult 20% of the work remained. > > > > > > > > > > I’m asking that to avoid situations when several people or teams > are > > doing the same thing. > > > > > Recently I proposed the site redesign and some teams are already > > doing that as it’s figured out. > > > > > > > > > > See Asaf’s comment: > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar-site/pull/426#issuecomment-1436589392 > > > > > > > > > > Please at least DM me if it’s not public information yet. > > > > > > > > > > Also DM me if you think that we can try to cooperate. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > >
