Since this proposal comes as a reaction to a discussion that was already happening on the private@ PMC mailing list, I want to add the context.
This was my original comment, where I was pointing out the inappropriateness of the Meetup group namings. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:34 PM Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org> wrote: ======================================================== I just happen to find out that it has been created a "Meetup Pro Account", called "Apache-Pulsar". This organization is called "Apache Pulsar Community" and there 3 newly created meetups that are all being "Organized by Apache Pulsar Community". https://www.meetup.com/pro/apache-pulsar/ Even though this event hasn't yet reached the attendance of 200 people, where a formal approval by PMC and ASF trademark is required, I think this is intentionally misleading the people about its nature. It fails to convey that: * This is not sanctioned by the PMC. Actually, no one from the PMC was involved. * This is organized by a specific vendor, whose name is not mentioned in the page. * This is not organized by the "Apache Pulsar Community" ======================================================== Additionally, also as discussed in the private list, all contributors in Apache are contributing as individuals, and there is no "vendor" representation role. For that, I don't think having sub-committees with representatives of vendors to drive project activity under the ASF umbrella is a good idea (or something that the ASF would be ok with). Finally, I find it a bit preposterous to now make it a proposal to the community, only after the above points were raised. Matteo -- Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:11 PM Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Meetups are an important part of community building and knowledge sharing > for open source projects like Apache Pulsar. At the same time, the work of > recruiting speakers and organizing sponsors [1] is both time consuming and > not core to project governance. > > I propose that the PMC designate a small community communications > subcommittee (with representatives from multiple vendors as well as > unaffiliated participants) to organize monthly community meetups. This > makeup will help guarantee vendor neutrality moving forward. > > In the meantime, my colleague Aaron Williams has created an umbrella group > [2] at Meetup to facilitate coordination there. We are ready to turn this > over to the Apache Pulsar PMC. > > [1] we can expect that sponsors to pay for food and drink will be relevant > again, hopefully soon! > [2] https://www.meetup.com/pro/apache-pulsar/
