Hi,

I'm a new contributor to the Pulsar community. My team and I recently
rebuilt the Apache Cassandra website [1] with the aim of improving user
experience and SEO to help visitors more easily understand and use
Cassandra. Based on recent threads here [2] and here [3], it appears the
Pulsar community has similar aims.

My team and I have decades of experience building sites with expertise
working with open source projects. We are offering to contribute 2-3 design
concepts for the community to vote on that will create a uniform design
pattern to the site.

Based on what we see today, there would be 8-10 new templates to create
(homepage, landing, general, library, events, blog landing, blog, and docs
-- and possibly a template for REST API and CLI Pulsar Admin, unless the
latter two will be merged into docs) -- for which we could contribute
design and development.

Would these contributions be of interest to the community? We are standing
by to participate upon consensus.

Additional thoughts/questions:

One consideration brought up on a previous thread [3] was SEO. We would
conduct research on keywords and update content to be relevant (with the
priority being meaningful content to end users first, SEO second).

Does the site currently have analytics? That will help us understand how to
best approach IA and content updates. If not, we previously recommended the
open source Plausible.io analytics platform (uses an Apache license) to
Cassandra, which is acceptable for use by any ASF project. [4]

We will add a suggested IA to the redesign doc. [5]

Melissa

[1] https://cassandra.apache.org/
[2]
https://lists.apache.org/x/thread.html/ra618c666d52f518741f64313969a9f16f20b8f06cd444f499f77cd93@%3Cdev.pulsar.apache.org%3E
[3]
https://lists.apache.org/x/thread.html/rbc6c15e936c3916ba989a2057670344a2b82f5aa7812c379d95a2862@%3Cdev.pulsar.apache.org%3E
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16488
[5]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IV35SI_F8G8cL-Vuzknc6RTGLK9_edRMpZpnrHvAWNs/edit#

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 18:01 Anonymitaet _ <anonymita...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just a gentle reminder:
>
> If you have any suggestions on the Pulsar website, do not hesitate to
> leave your comments here (
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IV35SI_F8G8cL-Vuzknc6RTGLK9_edRMpZpnrHvAWNs/edit#)
> before EOD July 28 (GMT +8).
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 2021/7/14, 11:48, "Anonymitaet _" <anonymita...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Thanks for the discussion.
>
>     Before upgrading Docusaurus,  we've collected some requirements from
> community and documented here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IV35SI_F8G8cL-Vuzknc6RTGLK9_edRMpZpnrHvAWNs/edit#.
>
>
>     Feel free to add more if you have any ideas before EOD July 28 (GMT
> +8).
>
>     After that, we can take all factors into consideration and make a
> suitable upgrading plan, thanks!
>
>     On 2021/7/14, 04:42, "Sijie Guo" <guosi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Hi Aaron,
>
>         Thank you for bringing this up!
>
>         As part of the docusuras discussion, we have already put together a
>         proposal/plan to revamp the Pulsar website. We are planning to send
>         out the proposal to the community for review and discussion in a
>         couple of days.
>
>         Would love you to help review the proposal once we send it out.
>
>         - Sijie
>
>         On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:31 PM Aaron Williams
>         <aaron.willi...@datastax.com> wrote:
>         >
>         > Hello Anonymitaet, PMC, and Pulsar Community,
>         >
>         > I love the idea, anything that enables new developers to get
> started while making life easier for them, our current contributors, and
> tech writers is a great idea.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > I would propose that we take this as an opportunity to go one
> step farther and overhaul the entire website.
>         >
>         > As we all know, the current one has a number of issues, for
> example:
>         >
>         > The Home page isn’t visually appealing and doesn’t tell you what
> Pulsar is.
>         >
>         > Some examples of other Apache product landing pages:
>         >
>         > Kafka: https://kafka.apache.org/
>         >
>         > RocketMQ: http://rocketmq.apache.org/
>         >
>         > Cassandra: https://cassandra.apache.org/
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > These are similar projects, but their sites are much more
> engaging than ours and leaves the visitor with a better impression of what
> those projects do.  Plus from other conversations, it is tough to get
> metrics from the site.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > For an example of a technical issue: when you mouse over the
> tabs they do not open and when you click on the triangles the tab opens but
> will not close until you click on it again, so you can end up with
> something like this (if the image isn’t below, go to pulsar.apache.org
> and just click on the triangles)
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > There are other issues like not having YouTube videos,
> testimonials from users, etc. (we each can come with a couple more issues).
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > So following the Apache Community mantra of if you raise an
> issue, you are volunteering to fix it.  With the PMC’s approval, I am
> volunteering to organize a group to revamp our website and the surrounding
> collateral.  The group will meet to gather specs and create a mock up and
> report back to the PMC and the larger Pulsar community; take feedback
> (using fail-fast/ agile methodology) and improve the design.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Thank you for taking the time to read this and I look forward to
> working with the community to improve our window to the world.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Thanks,
>         >
>         > Aaron Williams
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > About Me:
>         >
>         > Since this is my first time posting and I thought that I would
> introduce myself.  I am at DataStax and their community manager for
> streaming, with one of my major goals to help out with the Pulsar
> Community.  I came from the Linux Foundation’s Edge Umbrella project
> (LFEdge.org) and its 10 projects, where I was the Community Manager/
> Developer Advocate, working to grow and strengthen their community.  Before
> that, I was the Global Lead for SAP’s internal makerspace and community
> space called the d-shop, where we had over 30 locations around the world.
> Thus working with communities is what I have done for the last 10 years of
> my career. And I look forward to working with all of you and helping to
> grow this community.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:52 AM Guangning E <
> eguangn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>         >>
>         >> +1
>         >>
>         >> Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> 于2021年7月13日周二 下午4:14写道:
>         >>>
>         >>> +1
>         >>>
>         >>> Enrico
>         >>>
>         >>> Il giorno mar 13 lug 2021 alle ore 10:12 Sijie Guo <
> guosi...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>         >>>>
>         >>>> +1
>         >>>>
>         >>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:25 PM Anonymitaet _ <
> anonymita...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > Hi Pulsar enthusiasts,
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > Nowadays, Pulsar grows rapidly, docs are in increasing
> demands. While some users have a hard time finding what they need or
> encountering other issues.
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > As a sustainable community, we always give the same care to
> docs as code. To improve the UX, may we suggest upgrading the Pulsar
> website framework (Docusuraus) and re-architecture the doc structure?
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > # Issue
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > Currently, the Docusuraus version is 1.11, which is an old
> version released in 2019. With this version, we cannot customize features
> based on our needs (for example, navigation is a cornerstone for the site.
> We want to optimize it but cannot add more levels for it or collapse it,
> etc).
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > # Solution
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > Upgrade Docusuraus from 1.11 to the latest version (2.x).
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > # Benefit
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > Difference between 1.11 and 2.x:
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > 1.11 is a pure documentation site generator, using React as
> a server-side template engine, but not loading React on the browser.
>         >>>> > 2.x, rebuilt from the ground up, generates a
> single-page-application, using the full power of React in the browser. It
> allows for more customizability but preserved the best parts of 1.11 - easy
> to get started, versioned docs, and i18n. Beyond that, the latest version
> is a performant static site generator and can be used to create common
> content-driven websites (e.g. Documentation, Blogs, Product Landing and
> Marketing Pages, etc) extremely quickly. For how to upgrade, see
> https://docusaurus.io/docs/migration/automated.
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > If there is a better tool or any other suggestions, feel
> free to comment. We'd love your feedback, thanks!
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> > Anonymitaet
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>         >>>> >
>
>
>
>
>

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