On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 08:04:44PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 10:54:00AM +0800, Xiao Liang wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:07 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the replies, I have some further responses below.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 08:22:47AM +0800, Xiao Liang wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org> wrote:
> > >> > I'm concerned about backward compatibility.  Consider some application
> > >> > built on Open vSwitch using OpenFlow.  Today, it can distinguish
> > >> > single-tagged and double-tagged packets (that use outer Ethertype
> > >> > 0x8100), as follows:
> > >> >
> > >> >     - A single-tagged packet has vlan_tci != 0 and some non-VLAN
> > >> >       dl_type.
> > >> >
> > >> >     - A double-tagged packet has vlan_tci != 0 and a VLAN dl_type.
> > >> >
> > >> > With this patch, this won't work, because neither kind of packet has a
> > >> > VLAN dl_type.  Instead, applications need to first match on the outer
> > >> > VLAN, then pop it off, then match on the inner VLAN.  This difference
> > >> > could lead to security problems in applications.  An application
> > >> > might, for example, want to pop an outer VLAN and forward the packet,
> > >> > but only if there is no inner VLAN.  If it is implemented according to
> > >> > the previous rules, then it will not notice the inner VLAN.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe some applications are implemented this way, but they are
> > >> probably wrong. OpenFlow says eth_type is "ethernet type of the
> > >> OpenFlow packet payload, after VLAN tags", so it is the payload
> > >> ethtype for a double-tagged packet. It's the same for single-tagged
> > >> packet: application must explicitly match vlan_tci to decide whether
> > >> it has VLAN tag.
> > >
> > > OpenFlow does say that, but it's inconsistent with long-standing Open
> > > vSwitch practice and will cause backward incompatibility and, worse,
> > > security problems.  If we need the official OpenFlow behavior then I
> > > think we'll need to add a feature switch to turn on that behavior.
> > 
> > It's a good idea to add a switch. I think QinQ can be disabled and
> > fallback to current behavior if the switch is off, since these legacy
> > applications are not written for QinQ.
> 
> OK.  I'm happy with that solution, as long as the implementation is
> clean.

Is a new flag, i.e. OVS_DP_F_8021AD, passed via
OVS_DP_ATTR_USER_FEATURES an appropriate way to communicate this to the
kernel?

> > >> > This code uses the term "shift" for what is usually termed "push".  A
> > >> > "shift" can go in either direction.  I'd use "push".
> > >> >
> > >> Yes, "push" looks symmetric. I used "shift" because it leaves room for
> > >> a header rather than push data.
> > >
> > > Sometimes we use the longer name "push_uninit" in Open vSwitch to make
> > > it clear that what is being pushed is not initialized, for example see
> > > dp_packet_push_uninit(), nl_msg_push_uninit(), ofpbuf_push_uninit() and
> > > the related ds_put_uninit().
> > >
> > > However, when I look at your calls to the "shift" function, it looks
> > > like most of them could easily be written to provide the new header
> > > contents as an argument.
> > 
> > Constructing and passing a new struct is a bit redundant. I think
> > push_uninit is good and clear.
> 
> OK, but passing a pair of ovs_be16s to a function isn't so unusual.
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