On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:07 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies, I have some further responses below.
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 08:22:47AM +0800, Xiao Liang wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org> wrote:
>> > I'm concerned about backward compatibility.  Consider some application
>> > built on Open vSwitch using OpenFlow.  Today, it can distinguish
>> > single-tagged and double-tagged packets (that use outer Ethertype
>> > 0x8100), as follows:
>> >
>> >     - A single-tagged packet has vlan_tci != 0 and some non-VLAN
>> >       dl_type.
>> >
>> >     - A double-tagged packet has vlan_tci != 0 and a VLAN dl_type.
>> >
>> > With this patch, this won't work, because neither kind of packet has a
>> > VLAN dl_type.  Instead, applications need to first match on the outer
>> > VLAN, then pop it off, then match on the inner VLAN.  This difference
>> > could lead to security problems in applications.  An application
>> > might, for example, want to pop an outer VLAN and forward the packet,
>> > but only if there is no inner VLAN.  If it is implemented according to
>> > the previous rules, then it will not notice the inner VLAN.
>>
>> Maybe some applications are implemented this way, but they are
>> probably wrong. OpenFlow says eth_type is "ethernet type of the
>> OpenFlow packet payload, after VLAN tags", so it is the payload
>> ethtype for a double-tagged packet. It's the same for single-tagged
>> packet: application must explicitly match vlan_tci to decide whether
>> it has VLAN tag.
>
> OpenFlow does say that, but it's inconsistent with long-standing Open
> vSwitch practice and will cause backward incompatibility and, worse,
> security problems.  If we need the official OpenFlow behavior then I
> think we'll need to add a feature switch to turn on that behavior.

It's a good idea to add a switch. I think QinQ can be disabled and
fallback to current behavior if the switch is off, since these legacy
applications are not written for QinQ.

>
>> > This code uses the term "shift" for what is usually termed "push".  A
>> > "shift" can go in either direction.  I'd use "push".
>> >
>> Yes, "push" looks symmetric. I used "shift" because it leaves room for
>> a header rather than push data.
>
> Sometimes we use the longer name "push_uninit" in Open vSwitch to make
> it clear that what is being pushed is not initialized, for example see
> dp_packet_push_uninit(), nl_msg_push_uninit(), ofpbuf_push_uninit() and
> the related ds_put_uninit().
>
> However, when I look at your calls to the "shift" function, it looks
> like most of them could easily be written to provide the new header
> contents as an argument.

Constructing and passing a new struct is a bit redundant. I think
push_uninit is good and clear.

Thanks,
Xiao
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