On 09/22/14 21:36, John Fastabend wrote:

n-tuple has some deficiencies,

     - its not possible to get the capabilities to learn what
       fields are supported by the device, what actions, etc.

     - its ioctl based so we have to poll the device

     - only supports a single table, where we have devices with
       multiple tables

     - sort of the same as above but it doesn't allow creating new
       tables or destroying old tables.

I probably missed a few others

A few more I can think of which are generic:
The whole event subsystem allowing multi-user sync or monitoring
offered by netlink is missing because ethtool ioctl go
directly to the driver.
The synchronous interface vs async offered by netlink offers
a more effective user programmability.
The ioctl binary interface whose extensibility is a pain (dont
let Stephen H hear you mention ioctls for just this one reason).

but those are the main ones that I
would like to address. Granted other than the ioctl line the rest could
be solved by extending the existing interface. However I would just
assume port it to ndo_ops and netlink then extend the existing ioctl
seeing it needs a reasonable overall to support the above anyways.

We could port the ethtool ops over to the new interface to
simplify drivers.

Indeed.

cheers,
jamal

.John


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