On 08/24/14 22:42, John Fastabend wrote:

In the L2 case we already have the fdb_add and fdb_del semantics that
are being used today by NICs with embedded switches. And we have a DSA
patch we could dig out of patchwork for those drivers.

Indeed. That is an excellent starting point of something that is proven
to work. I was hoping L3 would follow this path. For L2,
there is the mess of claiming unicast NIC addresses as part of
the fdb, but that can almost be ignored.
Caveat: fdb_XXX works well for NICs as well as different larger
ASICs - but some quark handling is going to be needed for the tinier
openwrt type devices.
For larger switches we are going to need more for L2:
Really, the bridge already covers everthing large switches
offer (Vlan filtering, bridge port setting etc). We just need
to offload that...

So I think it makes more sense to use the explicit interface rather
than put another shim layer in the kernel. Its simpler and more to the
point IMO. I suspect the resulting code will be smaller and easier to
read. I'm the squemish one in the audience here.


L2/3 should be left alone and go this path. My concern on excessive
NDOs was more on the flow view of the world.

cheers,
jamal

.John



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