Ben,

I have this series on a branch after these:

http://patchwork.openvswitch.org/patch/2157/
http://patchwork.openvswitch.org/patch/2158/

Applying the first needs some manual work due to a typo fix in a comment I made 
on the 1/3 of this series you acked earlier.

After these two are in, I’ll send a rebased version of the meter framework, up 
to and including the userspace implementation, leaving the Linux kernel 
implementation for later work.

  Jarno

On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:03:03PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 09:19:59AM +0800, Jesse Gross wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 10:54:38AM -0800, Jarno Rajahalme wrote:
>>>>> Add DPIF-level support for meters. Allow meter_set to modify the meter
>>>>> configuration (e.g. set the burst size if unspecified).
>>>>> Summary:
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to get Jesse's view on the meter stuff.  I'll review
>>>> the userspace API, if you like, or if you think that a userspace-only
>>>> implementation would be useful, but we need his input to get it into
>>>> the kernel.
>>> 
>>> The concern that I have is that I think the actual meter
>>> implementation needs to be better integrated with the rest of the
>>> kernel in order to be upstreamable. I'm a little nervous about
>>> defining an API until we have at least one implementation that could
>>> be used in practice.
>>> 
>>> The other thing that I think would be good to talk about is how this
>>> relates to the existing QoS features and other possible ways that we
>>> might want to extend meters in the future.
>> 
>> I totally understand both of those concerns, and I'm on board with them.
>> Mostly I was hoping that since you sit closer to the kernel QoS stack
>> you'd have an idea for the kernel integration.
>> 
>> Let me try to advance the discussion then.
>> 
>> Maybe this is a "duh" kind of thing to other people, but I think that
>> what OpenFlow calls "metering" is what Linux calls "policing".  The
>> definitions, at least, are similar.  According to OpenFlow 1.3, a meter
>> measures the rate at which packets pass through it and either drops them
>> or changes their DSCP values.  According to the traffic control HOWTO,
>> "A policer will accept traffic to a certain rate, and then perform an
>> action on traffic exceeding this rate. A rather harsh solution is to
>> drop the traffic, although the traffic could be reclassified instead of
>> being dropped."
>> 
>> So a kernel action to invoke a policer would seem to be a place to
>> start.  I think we'd need the datapath module to maintain a table of
>> policers, probably identified by an integer value.  The action would
>> need to specify which one to invoke.
>> 
>> "Drop" meters/policers would be easier to deal with than remarking
>> meters/policers, because presumably recirculation is needed in the
>> general case where the dscp changes and later tables want to match on
>> the dscp.
>> 
>> Even "drop" meters/policers might be somewhat difficult, because I guess
>> that even if we "drop" along some path through the flow tables, we'd
>> still want to process anything along the "call stack" of resubmits.
>> 
>> In short it sounds nontrivial even if we have the policer building block
>> ready to go.  I'm not sure that it's worth it unless we have some
>> compelling use case.
>> 
>> Jarno?  Jesse?
> 
> Jarno, I didn't ever see any further discussion on this.  I'm trying to
> clean up patchwork, so I marked patches 6-12 in this series as Deferred.

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