On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:03:03PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 09:19:59AM +0800, Jesse Gross wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Ben Pfaff <b...@nicira.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 10:54:38AM -0800, Jarno Rajahalme wrote:
> > >> Add DPIF-level support for meters. Allow meter_set to modify the meter
> > >> configuration (e.g. set the burst size if unspecified).
> > >> Summary:
> > >
> > > I think we need to get Jesse's view on the meter stuff.  I'll review
> > > the userspace API, if you like, or if you think that a userspace-only
> > > implementation would be useful, but we need his input to get it into
> > > the kernel.
> > 
> > The concern that I have is that I think the actual meter
> > implementation needs to be better integrated with the rest of the
> > kernel in order to be upstreamable. I'm a little nervous about
> > defining an API until we have at least one implementation that could
> > be used in practice.
> > 
> > The other thing that I think would be good to talk about is how this
> > relates to the existing QoS features and other possible ways that we
> > might want to extend meters in the future.
> 
> I totally understand both of those concerns, and I'm on board with them.
> Mostly I was hoping that since you sit closer to the kernel QoS stack
> you'd have an idea for the kernel integration.
> 
> Let me try to advance the discussion then.
> 
> Maybe this is a "duh" kind of thing to other people, but I think that
> what OpenFlow calls "metering" is what Linux calls "policing".  The
> definitions, at least, are similar.  According to OpenFlow 1.3, a meter
> measures the rate at which packets pass through it and either drops them
> or changes their DSCP values.  According to the traffic control HOWTO,
> "A policer will accept traffic to a certain rate, and then perform an
> action on traffic exceeding this rate. A rather harsh solution is to
> drop the traffic, although the traffic could be reclassified instead of
> being dropped."
> 
> So a kernel action to invoke a policer would seem to be a place to
> start.  I think we'd need the datapath module to maintain a table of
> policers, probably identified by an integer value.  The action would
> need to specify which one to invoke.
> 
> "Drop" meters/policers would be easier to deal with than remarking
> meters/policers, because presumably recirculation is needed in the
> general case where the dscp changes and later tables want to match on
> the dscp.
> 
> Even "drop" meters/policers might be somewhat difficult, because I guess
> that even if we "drop" along some path through the flow tables, we'd
> still want to process anything along the "call stack" of resubmits.
> 
> In short it sounds nontrivial even if we have the policer building block
> ready to go.  I'm not sure that it's worth it unless we have some
> compelling use case.
> 
> Jarno?  Jesse?

Jarno, I didn't ever see any further discussion on this.  I'm trying to
clean up patchwork, so I marked patches 6-12 in this series as Deferred.
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