> On Dec 29, 2024, at 12:54 PM, Aivaras Stepukonis <astepuko...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you wish to have Apache OpenOffice continue to exist […] help support any
>> and all OpenOffice derivatives.
> I think it is the reverse, Dave. If you wish any and all Open Office
> derivatives to continue to exist, help support Open Office.
Not exactly the reverse, but, yes, support OpenOffice in an inclusive manner.
Best,
Dave
>
> --
> Pagarbiai / Sincerely,
> 📧 Aivaras Stepukonis <mailto:astepuko...@gmail.com>
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> 2024-12-29 22:15, Dave Fisher rašė:
>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2024, at 3:32 PM, Aivaras Stepukonis<astepuko...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> “Guerrilla marketing,” such as badmouthing Open Office and replacing
>>> references to it with references to Libre Office in Wikipedia and
>>> elsewhere, has been the norm for a long time now. A number of LO partizans
>>> use evenhttps://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ for this very campaign
>>> because some naive souls in the Open Office community administer it as
>>> “User community support forum for Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and all
>>> the OpenOffice.org derivatives.” This level of naivete is difficult to
>>> digest. Does the Apache Software Foundation receive payment for hosting a
>>> forum for the Document Foundation? Does the Apache Software Foundation know
>>> that a significant number of LO users who participate in the forum openly
>>> recommend replacing OO with LO?
>> In a word, yes, we know they answer any and all questions. The admins at
>> forum.openoffice.org are mostly the same people as they were in June 2011
>> when OpenOffice.org was donated to the ASF by Oracle as an Incubating
>> project. I know because I’m the one who has been doing the sysadmin work to
>> upgrade this phpBB forum from time to time.
>>
>> The ASF’s mission is software for the public good. We receive no payments
>> from anyone to host the forums. In fact all of us who work on Apache
>> OpenOffice are volunteers giving our own time and passion for our very large
>> community.
>>
>> The Documentation Foundation knows where we are, and, if they are willing.
>> could certainly have an open, honest, and reasonable discussion with us. We
>> are not Oracle and we are not IBM. The current animus does no one any good,
>> but seems to be aligned with their creation story.
>>
>> If you wish to have Apache OpenOffice continue to exist as we enter a new
>> world where regulators are looking at regulating the software supply chain
>> then you should lobby your governments that have become reliant on ODF
>> documents to help support any and all OpenOffice derivatives.
>>
>> Consider joining the forums and working to become an admin of a forum.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dave, who is currently taking his turn as VP, Apache OpenOffice
>>
>>> --
>>> Pagarbiai / Sincerely,
>>> 📧 Aivaras Stepukonis<mailto:astepuko...@gmail.com>
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>>> 2024-12-28 21:46, Fernando Cassia rašė:
>>>> Yes, same on Twitter where I dared to mention OpenOffice as an alternative
>>>> to Microsoft Office on a ZDNet post.
>>>> It didn't take long for a LO supporter to show up telling me I shouldn't
>>>> recommend "abandonware".
>>>>
>>>> I also noticed that the OpenOffice wikipedia entry has mostly a negative
>>>> tone.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice
>>
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