Hello All,

excuse my late reply.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 08:59:33AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> Wild question: Why do we even need TLS? I know, I know, that there
> is this push for SSL everywhere, but really, despite what the powers
> behind the "new internet" think, not all comms require TLS.

+1

I can understand the importance of downloading AOO through https, as
it gives an additional proof of the identity of the serving web site.

But simple information such as "there is a new version" is IMHO not so
important to require encryption, protection from man-in-the-middle
attacks and all the other goodies of https.

[...]

> So we think/know that OpenSSL1.1 would NOT have that problem because it works 
> around the LetsEncrypt issue. Which means we have 2 options:
> 
>   1. Stay w/ OpenSSL 1.0.2 and use the LE hack mentioned in this thread
>   2. Upgrade all to OpenSSL 1.1
> 
> My assumption is that dropping Serf for Curl wouldn't make a difference since 
> both use OpenSSL
> 

Then OpenSSL should be upgraded nevertheless! ;-)

If I understood correctly, upgrading Serf would also require:

 1- installing Scons. We could argue that we could ``throw our heart
 over the bar'' and engage into this, as it could be the (somewhat
 distant) future of AOO build system.

 2- upgrading APR. I am a bit worried about what an APR upgrade would
 depend on by itself. But upgrading our dependencies should be
 considered A Good Thing, right?

Dropping Serf could also be a good path to follow, as _lowering_ the
number of our dependencies may be A Good Thing as well. But I have no
idea of the effort that replacing Serf calls with equivalent Curl calls
will require.

I hope the above makes sense. Comments are welcome.

Best regards,
-- 
Arrigo

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