Hi Peter, all,

Am 14.06.20 um 10:41 schrieb Peter:
> see inline
>
> Am 13.06.20 um 22:08 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> Francis; replies in-line
>> On 6/13/2020 1:46 PM, F Campos Costero wrote:
>>
>>>   I have two questions at the moment. The second one is really for
>>> anyone.
>>> 1. I do not see a way  to publish to MediaWiki from DocBook. I
>>> thought you
>>> mentioned there is an extension and I fear I am being stupid but I
>>> am not
>>> finding it. Can you point me in the right direction?
>> I know I saw one at some point but cannot seem to find it at the moment.
>> The only ones I see now are to go from MediaWiki to DocBook. I will keep
>> checking, if there are not any that option may have to be abandoned
>> .
>
> I want to remind you on the talk I posted earlier, which refers to a
> toolchain on docbook, and which talks on Issues and chances there are
> (the editor has been mentioned as use what you want.)
>
> I also would like to suggest to check if an exporter to pelikan (our
> new static webpage generator) would not be more usefull. maybe some
> tool exists docbook -> markup we could uce.
>
> {...}
>
>>> In general, I really like the idea you present of having the document
>>> production based on Writer. Allowing new people to contribute
>>> immediately
>>> should greatly lower a barrier to recruitment. To adopt that
>>> strategy we
>>> have to demonstrate the viability of Writer -> MediaWiki transfers. Is
>>> there anyone with the knowledge and time to look at the Wiki Publisher
>>> extension? I think we have to get that question clearly posed and 
>>> answered
>>> so we know whether that approach can be considered.
>> It only makes sense to me to write the documentation for the product
>> using the product we are writing the documentation for. I remember
>> seeing Updating of the extension on a cwiki page that Peter  had set up
>> but do not remember the the link off hand. Peter could you shed some
>> light on this?
>
> I think you will not find a reference to MWiki extension anymore,
> since I understood once that the MWiki module works again. But that
> has been a misunderstanding on my side. You might remeber the
> developer plans [1] which refers to MediaWiki repair.

I think you are mixing up two different issues here:

1.) MediaWiki Publisher Extension: This is an extension that is
integrated in our source. We build every release (at least) since 4.1.2
with it but it is neither functional nor visible in AOO Writer menu.

2.) Broken Wiki pages: Since the upgrade of our Wiki server certain
pages are not being displayed. The reason seems to be a *WIKI* extension
for syntax highlighting that is incompatible with our server. Andrea
knows more about it but apparently he is not available at the moment.

Both issues are not fixed until now.

>
> I checked Bugzilla and found 2 Issues [2],|3] that might be related.
>
> Is this extension MWiki Extension a Filter? (I got the impression from
> Bugs.) If so I can add and Collect Issues and Information on the MWiki
> Extension.

See https://github.com/apache/openoffice/tree/trunk/main/swext/mediawiki

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>
> all the best
>
> Peter
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Improvement
>
> [2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=82214
>
> [3] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=99873
>
>
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Francis
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:14 AM Keith N. McKenna
>>> <keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/13/2020 5:05 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your effort!
>>>>>
>>>>> I found some typos:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apace" should be "Apache"
>>>>>
>>>>> "Anaysis" should be "Analysis" (in file properties)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Matthias
>>>> Thanks Matthias;
>>>>
>>>> Thought I had got all those in the source.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>> Am 13.06.20 um 01:42 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>>>>>> On 6/3/2020 9:11 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/30/2020 8:41 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>>> I should probably have my head examined but I am thinking of
>>>>>>>> one more
>>>>>>>> time trying to revive the documentation effort for AOO. One of the
>>>>>>>> drawbacks is that most people that have started to help have
>>>>>>>> left as
>>>>>>>> there has been very limited availability of mentoring. I do not
>>>>>>>> see
>>>> this
>>>>>>>> changing but I am hoping that by defining a new process we can
>>>>>>>> reduce
>>>>>>>> the dependency on mentoring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One idea for this would require that the MediaWiki extension be
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> functional again. This would allow for using Writer to create the
>>>> source
>>>>>>>> which could be stored in the git repository and then be
>>>>>>>> transferred to
>>>>>>>> the mwiki for easy online access. By storing the source in the
>>>>>>>> repository it would give us better revision control over the
>>>>>>>> documentation. Plus it may help relieve the mentoring problem
>>>>>>>> as many
>>>>>>>> more people are familiar with using Writer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another would be to use Docbook, though this is not as
>>>>>>>> appealing as I
>>>>>>>> have no familiarity with it and it appears that there is a steep
>>>>>>>> learning curve to its use and that would be a disadvantage to
>>>> attracting
>>>>>>>> new people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I look forward to any other suggestions that could move this
>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>> along as it has languished for far to long.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AS part of this effort I am working on a document laying out
>>>>>>> What I see
>>>>>>> as the need for this project and a number of alternatives that
>>>>>>> could be
>>>>>>> used to to address those needs. Once completed I will share it both
>>>> here
>>>>>>> and on doc@for more comments and suggestions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who have responded for there time and suggestions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> As promised the document is ready to be shared. There are tow
>>>>>> versions,a
>>>>>> ODT file and a PDF one that can be downloaded from the following
>>>>>> link
>>>>>> https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsMYmStvrJNJin9GvgxRst1AMk2c. There are Two
>>>>>> versions, PDF and ODT just pick the one you want and download it.
>>>>>> All
>>>>>> comments and suggestions are welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am also going to be starting a thread over on doc@ to try and
>>>>>> solicit
>>>>>> from there as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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