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Am 13.06.20 um 22:08 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
Francis; replies in-line
On 6/13/2020 1:46 PM, F Campos Costero wrote:

  I have two questions at the moment. The second one is really for anyone.
1. I do not see a way  to publish to MediaWiki from DocBook. I thought you
mentioned there is an extension and I fear I am being stupid but I am not
finding it. Can you point me in the right direction?
I know I saw one at some point but cannot seem to find it at the moment.
The only ones I see now are to go from MediaWiki to DocBook. I will keep
checking, if there are not any that option may have to be abandoned
.

I want to remind you on the talk I posted earlier, which refers to a toolchain on docbook, and which talks on Issues and chances there are (the editor has been mentioned as use what you want.)

I also would like to suggest to check if an exporter to pelikan (our new static webpage generator) would not be more usefull. maybe some tool exists docbook -> markup we could uce.

{...}

In general, I really like the idea you present of having the document
production based on Writer. Allowing new people to contribute immediately
should greatly lower a barrier to recruitment. To adopt that strategy we
have to demonstrate the viability of Writer -> MediaWiki transfers. Is
there anyone with the knowledge and time to look at the Wiki Publisher
extension? I think we have to get that question clearly posed and  answered
so we know whether that approach can be considered.
It only makes sense to me to write the documentation for the product
using the product we are writing the documentation for. I remember
seeing Updating of the extension on a cwiki page that Peter  had set up
but do not remember the the link off hand. Peter could you shed some
light on this?

I think you will not find a reference to MWiki extension anymore, since I understood once that the MWiki module works again. But that has been a misunderstanding on my side. You might remeber the developer plans [1] which refers to MediaWiki repair.

I checked Bugzilla and found 2 Issues [2],|3] that might be related.

Is this extension MWiki Extension a Filter? (I got the impression from Bugs.) If so I can add and Collect Issues and Information on the MWiki Extension.


all the best

Peter

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Improvement

[2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=82214

[3] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=99873



Regards
Keith

Regards,
Francis

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:14 AM Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
wrote:

On 6/13/2020 5:05 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
Hi Keith,

Thank you for your effort!

I found some typos:

"Apace" should be "Apache"

"Anaysis" should be "Analysis" (in file properties)

Regards,

    Matthias
Thanks Matthias;

Thought I had got all those in the source.

Keith
Am 13.06.20 um 01:42 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
On 6/3/2020 9:11 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
On 5/30/2020 8:41 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
I should probably have my head examined but I am thinking of one more
time trying to revive the documentation effort for AOO. One of the
drawbacks is that most people that have started to help have left as
there has been very limited availability of mentoring. I do not see
this
changing but I am hoping that by defining a new process we can reduce
the dependency on mentoring.

One idea for this would require that the MediaWiki extension be made
functional again. This would allow for using Writer to create the
source
which could be stored in the git repository and then be transferred to
the mwiki for easy online access. By storing the source in the
repository it would give us better revision control over the
documentation. Plus it may help relieve the mentoring problem as many
more people are familiar with using Writer.

Another would be to use Docbook, though this is not as appealing as I
have no familiarity with it and it appears that there is a steep
learning curve to its use and that would be a disadvantage to
attracting
new people.

I look forward to any other suggestions that could move this effort
along as it has languished for far to long.

Regards
Keith

AS part of this effort I am working on a document laying out What I see
as the need for this project and a number of alternatives that could be
used to to address those needs. Once completed I will share it both
here
and on doc@for more comments and suggestions.

Thanks to all who have responded for there time and suggestions

Regards
Keith

As promised the document is ready to be shared. There are tow versions,a
ODT file and a PDF one that can be downloaded from the following link
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsMYmStvrJNJin9GvgxRst1AMk2c. There are Two
versions, PDF and ODT just pick the one you want and download it. All
comments and suggestions are welcome.

I am also going to be starting a thread over on doc@ to try and solicit
from there as well.

Regards
Keith





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