Francis; If you have some time try the XML file from this location https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsMYmStvrJNJinVnnJWlYCHrxzmc just right click on the XML file and chose download on the fly out menu. It is a draft of my analysis document. Thanks for the work you are putting in on this.
Regards Keith On 6/8/2020 12:46 PM, F Campos Costero wrote: > Looking at my first post, I should not have said "[not] even remotely close > to high quality material". Let me amend that to "definitely needs work". > Francis > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:03 AM F Campos Costero <fjcc.apa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Keith, >> I would not say it was a disappointing result at all. I am a complete >> novice with DocBook and I have used XSL exactly one time before this. I may >> have committed any number of rookie mistakes. I was just playing with the >> tools to see what worked right away and what would need tweaking. >> >> I used both OpenOffice's Save As DocBook option and Pandoc's odt -> >> DocBook option to make the xml version of the odt document >> For html output, I used libxslt to translate the xml into html >> For PDF output, I used libxslt to translate the xml into an fo file and >> then I used Apache FOP to make a PDF from that. >> >> My test document was an OpenOffice Installation Guide I pulled off the web. >> >> The biggest problem with the PDF was the placement of the table of >> contents. It is at the top of the document before the title page and I >> cannot move the dang thing. Just my ignorance I am sure. A couple of the >> figures are not well placed, the document title is formatted as regular >> text and some links appear as the raw link instead as the desired text. >> >> The html also has the title misformatted, it has no table of contents at >> all and it generally looks very bland. I am not sure whether the figures >> were correctly included in my first try or if I had to fiddle with the xml >> content to get them to appear. >> >> If I were to continue along the DocBook path, I would redo my tests and >> record carefully what worked and what needed adjustment. I held off on that >> because I did not want to waste time if you were to say that you found a >> better solution than DocBook. My guess, a very ill informed one, is that >> neither the OpenOffice export nor Pandoc's odt -> DocBook process will give >> us perfectly formatted DocBook files but they will do a very large fraction >> of the work. Some manual editing will be needed but once we understand what >> that is, it will not be a big deal. Getting to that understanding may be >> painful if no one knows DocBook any better than me. >> >> How is your knowledge of XSL? I can look at the code and guess what some >> of it does but I cannot write anything myself. >> >> Francis >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:29 AM Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On 6/7/2020 11:28 PM, F Campos Costero wrote: >>>> Keith, >>>> I have played with generating DocBook files from odt files and then >>>> producing HTML or PDF from the DocBook. None of the output is even >>> remotely >>>> close to high quality material but I was pleased to get something >>> readable. >>>> Rather than spending more time on what may be a dead end, I will wait >>> for >>>> your summary of the project needs. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Francis >>> >>> Francis; >>> >>> This is indeed disappointing. Which of the XSL publishing tools did you >>> use? I had been leaning towards using DocBook due to the ability to >>> create multiple different formats. >>> >>> Regards >>> Keith >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:11 AM Keith N. McKenna < >>> keith.mcke...@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/30/2020 8:41 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >>>>>> I should probably have my head examined but I am thinking of one more >>>>>> time trying to revive the documentation effort for AOO. One of the >>>>>> drawbacks is that most people that have started to help have left as >>>>>> there has been very limited availability of mentoring. I do not see >>> this >>>>>> changing but I am hoping that by defining a new process we can reduce >>>>>> the dependency on mentoring. >>>>>> >>>>>> One idea for this would require that the MediaWiki extension be made >>>>>> functional again. This would allow for using Writer to create the >>> source >>>>>> which could be stored in the git repository and then be transferred to >>>>>> the mwiki for easy online access. By storing the source in the >>>>>> repository it would give us better revision control over the >>>>>> documentation. Plus it may help relieve the mentoring problem as many >>>>>> more people are familiar with using Writer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another would be to use Docbook, though this is not as appealing as I >>>>>> have no familiarity with it and it appears that there is a steep >>>>>> learning curve to its use and that would be a disadvantage to >>> attracting >>>>>> new people. >>>>>> >>>>>> I look forward to any other suggestions that could move this effort >>>>>> along as it has languished for far to long. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Keith >>>>>> >>>>> AS part of this effort I am working on a document laying out What I see >>>>> as the need for this project and a number of alternatives that could be >>>>> used to to address those needs. Once completed I will share it both >>> here >>>>> and on doc@for more comments and suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all who have responded for there time and suggestions >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Keith >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>
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