Hello, Am 20.11.19 um 09:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > Hello Peter, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:50 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in >> our PMC and developer circle) >> >> Hello Jörg, >> >> >> It is still unclear why you want to track activity. Can you >> elaborate on >> this point maybe? > > First let me say: I don't think it is necessary to find out in real time who > is active at the moment, it would probably be enough to publish it once a > month. > > Why do I want to know who is active? > For decisions of the PMC the majority principle applies (imho). The majority, > however, depends on the votes (respectively the opinions) of the people who > are currently active. > > > And in the long run: Has no one really thought about the principle that no > one can be excluded from the PMC and that third parties can install > majorities there? > > for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I think there is a > certain difference between the activity of people who only work in the > project because they are paid for it by companies and people who work in the > project out of their own interest. >
IMO the best way to improve a system is to solve its practical problems. I do not remember any case, in which a permanent inactive PMC member "jumps out of the box" to influence a voting. I do not see any PMC member, which tries to undercut AOO in collaboration with others. IMO the influence of third parties, esp. enterprises is in AOO more negligible than it is in other Apache projects. The influence of enterprises were drastic in the moment they stopped supporting us. And unfortunately I do not know any enterprise, who is willing to support us substantially in future. That is one of our actual problems. So IMO we should focus our energy and resources to solve the practical problems we really have. As an example: Let us reflect, how we can transact the proposals of Patricia to recruit new developers. And another one: Let us reflect, how we get the infrastructure we need to work well. Kind regards Michael
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