Pedro Lino wrote:
I agree that it is good that some users replicate the building procedure and confirm that it works. ... In any case I couldn't find that particular requirement for a PMC member in the voting page (https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html). Maybe that is being too strict?
If you read the page Marcus sent, you will basically discover that probably I'm the only one who wrote to the list about all details listed there (such as the NOTICE file etc). Does this mean my vote is "better" than others? Of course not.
We don't really look at the status of the voter but at the vote itself and (in case it is a -1) at the reason behind it.
So the practice is much saner than the theory and nobody discarded Larry's -1 saying it was not coming from a PMC member. Any correctly justified -1 will of course be treated in the same way, regardless of who casts it.
just reading the ASF rules discouraged me to become a committer (I was invited in the past) and still does
I did a presentation at ApacheCon a few years ago, called "Bending the Rules: Community over Code over Policy", explaining that policy should never come first and presenting some examples where we had to, say, "interpret" a dumb policy to do the right thing that would not hamper the community. It's still buried at https://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html and that is still my point of view. But also something that concretely happens in OpenOffice.
Agreed. That is why the "*and all others are either discouraged from voting (to keep the noise down)*" is particularly unnecessary (if not offensive).
I trust Dave will get that unfortunate wording amended in https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html - but again, that is about technical voting (on a code commit) and not release voting. In this sense, the sentence is a bit easier to justify (i.e., if you are expressing an opinion on a controversial code commit you are supposed to have familiarity with the code).
Regards, Andrea. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
