Agree with Rob and Andrea that the pages serve a purpose.
My reason for filing the original bug was simply that during translation into 
Norwegian,
I saw several pages were outdated, talking about MSO 2003 EOL etc.

Instead of discussing details of wording here, why don’t someone who cares for 
the /why/ pages
volunteer to take a stab at updating outdated stuff and then let people comment 
on the result.

--
Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com

> 10. jan. 2016 kl. 19.17 skrev Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com>:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I am +1 for also looking at the why_new_computers page as Jan suggests.
>> 
>> Telling people that AOO is free is not the issue.
>> 
>> Where it is an advantage is a matter for users to decide.  We should let 
>> them judge for themselves.
>> 
> 
> I think you are missing the point of this page and the other "why"
> pages.   These are intended as landing pages for those arriving via
> search engine queries looking for these very benefits.   We get around
> 20K referrals/month via Google, for example, to these pages.
> 
> Ask yourself, how else would someone that does not even know the name
> "OpenOffice" find us if they were looking for an application that
> reads ODF, or a free replacement to Microsoft Office (of whatever
> version), or an office suite that is interoperable on multiple
> platforms, or which supports an ISO standard file format?
> 
> Note that this is a significant issue.   When I last did a survey of
> this (2014), 61% of U.S. internet users had not heard of the name
> "OpenOffice".  
> (http://www.robweir.com/blog/2014/10/the-power-of-brand-and-the-power-of-product-redux.html)
>  If people don't know your name then you need to have landing pages
> that speak to their concerns, to the problem they are trying to solve,
> to the keywords that they are using when searching the web for the
> kind of thing that OpenOffice could be a good fit for.   To do
> otherwise is to beg to be invisible to them.
> 
> So in that sense, the users have judged for themselves, and expressed
> their interest via their search query and have ended up on that
> particular page.
> 
> It should be obvious that connecting users seeking a free replacement
> to Microsoft Office to our website will require a page that uses the
> word "free" and "Microsoft Office."  That is just how search engines
> work.
> 
> I'd recommend updating the pages (and the many translated versions of
> them) to increase relevancy, but continue to use them for their
> intended purposes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
>> Our blanket claims are not helpful and come off like commercial puffery.
>> 
>> I do maintain that it is an opportunity to be able to install AOO for free 
>> and determine whether their needs are satisfied by using AOO for all or much 
>> of their document needs or not.
>> 
>> I would suggest that flexibility and leave financial, cost of 
>> operation/adoption, and interoperability determinations to users themselves. 
>>  They will presumably know what is most important to them.
>> 
>> Since Office 2007 is also no longer of interest to those who do not have it 
>> already, I agree that there is not much point in making any observations 
>> about Office 2007 either.
>> 
>> 
>> - Dennis
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 14:05
>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Updating the WHY section of www.openoffice.org
>>> 
>>> Jan Høydahl wrote:
>>>> Yes, remove the Office 2003 EOL page
>>> 
>>> That page was written to have a SEO-friendly resource for people who
>>> were looking for options to upgrade from Office 2003 back at the time.
>>> It can probably be retired since it served its purpose.
>>> 
>>>> But also consider rephrasing these two:
>>>> 
>>>> * http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_new_computers.html
>>>>   You are not required to spend $100, $200 or more for a copy of
>>> Microsoft Office
>>> 
>>> This one can stay. What's wrong with it? We shouldn't be ashamed of
>>> telling people that OpenOffice is free and that this is an advantage.
>>> 
>>>> * http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_easy.html:
>>>>   Studies have proved it is easier (and cheaper) to move to
>>> OpenOffice from Microsoft Office than it is to upgrade to Microsoft's
>>> Office 2007.
>>> 
>>> Yes, this should refer to the past. "Studies that compared upgrade
>>> options for Microsoft Office 2003 proved that it was easier (and
>>> cheaper) to move to OpenOffice from Microsoft Office than it is to
>>> upgrade to Microsoft's Office 2007."
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>> 
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