The TL;DR:

Yes, the license page describes what must be reflected in LICENSE and NOTICE 
files for 3rd party software, and something about the software files too.  

It does not address how such software comes into a project's hands.  It is not 
about acceptance of such software.  No precedent about that should be read into 
the policy on how to satisfy the third-party license and conditions for 
notices. 

 - Dennis

MORE CONTEXT

Whenever the question about voluntary contributions (by someone asserting the 
right to do so) comes up, as it does regularly on a couple of ASF lists, the 
discussion invariably ends up affirming that voluntary contribution is 
expected.  

There are other nuances.  One is that the original license, when different than 
the ALv2, is accounted for in some manner and that copyright notices are not 
mucked with (except by someone having the right to do that).  Another is that, 
when the Apache Project is downstream in this case, patches and fixes will be 
contributed back when appropriate under the original license.

We have seen relevant cases on this project.

In general, it is necessary to address specific cases and determine what the 
precise situation requires.  The key take-away for me is that there is no 
precedent whatsoever with regard to appropriation of third-party code into a 
project.  Any exceptions are narrow and specific and not to be taken as 
precedents.

This falls out under the umbrella of the Apache Software Foundation projects 
producing software as a public good.  That fundamental principle extends to how 
ASF projects operate as good open-source citizens and do so without any 
requirement for reciprocity but as a matter of good will.  This seems to be 
fundamental to the DNA of the Apache Software Foundation.

It is attention to this sort of thing that Project Management Committees are 
accountable for, with assistance of the legal-discuss and other lists when 
needed.

 - Dennis 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 10:04
> To: OOo Apache <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording
> 
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Kay Schenk wrote:
> >
> >> OK, I will look for something like this, or please reply to this
> >> thread if you find something.
> >>
> >
> > I've found it mentioned here, even though this is not a policy page:
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html
> > "The ASF only accepts voluntary contributions of software and
> > documentation that are expressly licensed to The ASF under an approved
> open
> > source license".
> >
> 
> ​Thanks. This seems much more stringent  to the wording on the acceptable
> 3rd pa​
> ​rty licensing page where only a reference in a NOTICE file to the
> original
> work is required. I will investigate further before changing anything.
>  
> 
> 
> >
> > That said, if you still wish to edit the page I'm not opposing. I
> simply
> > pointed out that it is correct as it is now. If we reword it the way
> you
> > propose, it will still be correct.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
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