On 08/22/2015 08:15 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In RTL (as well as TTB and BTT) the indentation will typically be in > the reading direction. > > In future releases of Apache OpenOffice, the Chinese case is going to > use double-character indentation when automatic indentation is > specified in the paragraph style. The change is also being made in > LibreOffice, so there will be interchange compatibility. > > Microsoft Office evidently has no automatic indentation, so there is > nothing to coordinate there. OpenOffice documents that are > interchanged in .doc or .odt format will show up in Microsoft Office > Word with no indentation on those paragraphs specified to have > automatic indentation in OpenOffice. > > The assumption with regard to legacy breakage of ODF document > presentation is that there is little use of auto-indentation in > existing Chinese ODF documents. That is because that indentation > does not satisfy the understood and widely-employed indentation style > that would be honored in important documents. > > This is now covered at > <https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126476>. > > If anyone has a solid concrete objection to why this would be > unacceptably breaking, we need to know that quickly before > LibreOffice and OpenOffice reflect this change in distributed > updates. > > - Dennis
This patch by Mark Hung is now committed. Additional testing can be done from buildbot builds which run later tonight. Additional findings/comments should be made on the issue. > > -----Original Message----- From: Rory O'Farrell > [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 23:37 To: > dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: help needed on ODF standard > for "auto" indent for paragraphs > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:23:22 -0700 "Dennis E. Hamilton" > <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > > [ ... ] > > I cannot answer for what happens when using R to L type or what (if > any) is the typesetting "norm" for such languages. I'll root around > later today to see if I can come up with anything, but I'm going > offline shortly to do Saturday things. > > Rory > >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 14:20 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for >> paragraphs >> >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:57:59 -0700 Kay Schenk >> <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This is in regard to issue >>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126476 >>> >>> I can't easily locate what the ODF 1.2 standard is on calculation >>> for a first line auto indent for a paragraph. Well I found this >>> -- http://officeopenxml.com/WPindentation.php >>> >>> but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. :/ >>> >>> In any case, if the standard is consistent regardless of font, it >>> seems our calcs may be incorrect for some Asian fonts (maybe >>> encoding factors are not correctly taken into account) and that >>> is the reason the patch was submitted for this issue. It would be >>> nice if this calculation did happen correctly so users would not >>> have to manually adjust the indent for paragraph first line. >>> >> >> Kay, >> >> Merely for information, the printing standard I grew up with is >> that the usual indent for a paragraph in body type is one em, that >> is on 12 pt type, 12 pts, 18 pt type, 18 pts etc. I believe this >> is the convention followed in OO's Paragraph style definition on >> the Indents and Spacing tab, when "Automatic" is checked for first >> line indentation. >> >> If you need references for the one em indent I can provide them. >> >> Rory >> >> >> -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > -- -------------------------------------------- MzK “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” --Lao Tzu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
