On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:23:22 -0700 "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote:
> I suspect the Roman alphabet, conventional-font space-/indent-sizing is > inapplicable for some Asian languages. (I hope the Asian setting is > specifically for CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) or we could be having > problems with some very complex language scripts as well. > > Rory, I don't believe "automatic" is on by default, so someone must be > defining styles this way, you think? You are right, "Automatic" first line indent is not on by default. The default condition is that first line indent is selected as zero (i.e. no indent), as are the indents before and after every line of the paragraph; I think this is reasonable behavour, If "Automatic" is checked, then the 1 em indent is applied i.e., an indent of the type size. The Help file says "Automatically indents a paragraph according to the font size and the line spacing. The setting in the First Line box is ignored." The current fashion in much in-house writing is not to indent, instead marking paragraphs by a line of white space. From a conservationist's point of view this uses more paper - I leave aside any question of aesthetics or ease of reading. I cannot answer for what happens when using R to L type or what (if any) is the typesetting "norm" for such languages. I'll root around later today to see if I can come up with anything, but I'm going offline shortly to do Saturday things. Rory > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 14:20 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for paragraphs > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:57:59 -0700 > Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > This is in regard to issue > > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126476 > > > > I can't easily locate what the ODF 1.2 standard is on calculation for a > > first line auto indent for a paragraph. Well I found this -- > > http://officeopenxml.com/WPindentation.php > > > > but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. :/ > > > > In any case, if the standard is consistent regardless of font, it seems > > our calcs may be incorrect for some Asian fonts (maybe encoding factors > > are not correctly taken into account) and that is the reason the patch > > was submitted for this issue. It would be nice if this calculation did > > happen correctly so users would not have to manually adjust the indent > > for paragraph first line. > > > > Kay, > > Merely for information, the printing standard I grew up with is that the > usual indent for a paragraph in body type is one em, that is on 12 pt type, > 12 pts, 18 pt type, 18 pts etc. I believe this is the convention followed in > OO's Paragraph style definition on the Indents and Spacing tab, when > "Automatic" is checked for first line indentation. > > If you need references for the one em indent I can provide them. > > Rory > > > -- > Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
