Am 02/20/2015 11:55 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
I know we are waiting on Andrea's rewrite, but I would ask why bother to
rewrite.
Here are three reasons why the page should be removed from all language
versions and not just hidden.
(1) How does the PMC even know what this carefully nuanced page even says in
another language like Chinese, Arabic, German, Russian, and the rest?
that's also true for any other webpage that was localized. This is not
special to the webpage we discuss.
(2) These pages cause a fracture in the overall OpenOffice / ODF ecosystem
whether or not all of us acknowledge that fact.
Primarily I see "www.openoffice.org" as a portal for our software. It's
not a general homepage for the community around everything that is based
on OpenOffice or ODF.
At least I cannot see pointers and text that mentioned other software
and extensions *and* it would count as *majority* for the ecosystem.
(3) These pages also damage the reputation of the ASF.
Then remove/rewrite the parts.
The only way to handle our responsibilities as a PMC is to remove these pages
in every language.
This is your opinion. However, the vote until now speaks a different
language.
Sorry, but removal is nothing more than the easy way out. When we cannot
come to a new and agreed version of the text, then we can delete it
completely.
My 2 ct
Marcus
On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:37 AM, Danese Cooper wrote:
For what it's worth (and I'm sure there are some on this list who believe it is
worth very little), I didn't and don't like the GPL-bashing verbiage, precisely
because it is not consistent with ASF statements and leaves ASF open to the
kind of criticism Bradley Kuhn has leveled.
The page was originally written and "discussed" at a time when some factions of
the PMC were not really entertaining dissent from an agenda of emphasizing the
differences between AOO and LO/TDF, and I didn't feel it would help for me to suggest
that AOO should concentrate on engineering and if anything practice generosity towards
sister projects (which is closer to the Apache Way).
But, since you've called for discussion and vote, I would vote -1 on leaving
the page as-is, and +1 on changing it as JimJag (VP of Legal Affairs) has asked.
Danese
On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:28 AM, Rob Weir<r...@robweir.com> wrote:
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