On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thread for discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Come on, what's this? Do you guys read this list? We had this conversation
>> earlier this month, not ages ago. It ended like this:
>> 
>> http://markmail.org/message/2ae5vrtevxyizaje
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately we have a party who wants to steamroll through a fast
> delete unless I immediately show "proof" of consensus for another
> option. From what I've been able to ascertain a vote is the only
> acceptable proof.  Personally, I'd be happy to look at your eventual
> version.  I think many others would as well.   The vote does not
> really change that.

Just saying. There are two ways to look at who is steamrolling.

When the ASF is saying that there is a problem then it needs to be considered.

You are providing a vote that proves we want "Change" - the range of this is 
large and ill defined.

Your choices are missing options like:

[ ] Convert to a positive statement about the AL2.0 plus provide some links on 
license compliance. Link to third parties.

[ ] Make the minimal changes to satisfy the Foundation.

Originally I was about preserving and converting the openoffice.org site and 
then doing minimal changes. Once I may have support this page. Now I feel that 
there are issues that reflect poorly on the Foundation.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 
>> [Andrea] The page provides relevant information in a bad way. It is by
>> keeping it as it is that we play the game of haters. I'll propose a rewrite
>> next weekend.
>> 
>> Now, weekends do not last 5 days, unfortunately, and life on the OpenOffice
>> lists has been more eventful than I expected. But I very much prefer that
>> instead of flooding the list as a handful of people did in the last few
>> hours, someone would remember this and either say that we were still waiting
>> for my rewrite or that they were replacing me in the task since I'm clearly
>> late. But voting on the abstract option of replacing the page which
>> something that doesn't exist does not really make a lot of sense to me.
>> 
>> And it sounds too much like the usual "we talk about something expecting
>> that someone else does the work" that I'd like we abandon.
>> 
>> Well, my offer to rewrite it remains valid... but you'll have to be patient
>> until next weekend!
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  Andrea.
>> 
>> 
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