To have complete visibility on Forum activity, Jan might need to have his Account on the Forum adjusted to "Apache Observers" status. This will provide Visibility to the Admin Forums on the EN Forum at least if Jan does not have that already.
I recommend that happening since Jan has an eye on the server-level working of the Forums as well as administrative activity. On the EN Admin Forums Index I see recent thread activity in November and October. Also, some Automated posts on Forum admin go to private @oo.a.o (although I cannot confirm activity of that kind myself). Jan should let Hagar know what his Forum user ID is if the Apache Observers ceremony has not been completed for him already. (I don't know if this privilege is limited to PMC members or not. I still have my status and do not abuse it.) - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 04:37 To: dev Subject: Re: Who is active wiki and forum admin ? On 24 November 2014 at 13:14, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: > jan i wrote: > >> Ideally we should have 2-3 admins for our wiki. When I look at the logs, I >> cannot see any admin actions over the last couple of months, and when I >> look at some of the new pages, I believe we are getting spammed again. >> > > I create MWiki accounts on a regular basis (from the web interface). So at > least that activity should be visible. If you see spam, can you send some > links? > I saw that activity, but I had expected activity deleting pages etc. When I last maintained the servers, pages was deleted more or less weekly by a couple of people. > > Ideally we should have 1-2 admin pr national/language forum. Currently >> most >> forums seems to be without a admin, even the EN forum does not seem to >> have >> regular admin activity. Bear in mind though, I cannot judge how much admin >> work is needed on the forums. >> > > I understand that it can be painful to do so, but the fact that "most > forums seem to be without an admin" is scary enough that it's worth to > understand it better. Without looking at every single detail, do you have a > couple of examples like "on the Italian forum there is one admin and that > admin hasn't posted in 6 months"? (This is an example, I know that the > current admin is active). > > What I would like to understand is if we do not have admins, or we have > admins who never log in, or we have incompetent admins (that is, these > people are active but you see badly administered forums). > I did not go as far as to check the admin bit in the user table, I simply took a look at the logs for admin entries. I dont think we have incompetent admins, and I dont know how often they login or post. > > Also note that most day-to-day admin activity on the EN forum is done by > the forum moderators, not by the forum administrators. > As I wrote I am not familiar with the admin job on a forum, so maybe the lack of activity I see is normal. > > My intention is to keep the admins and the vm-admins updated before >> planned >> actions happen as well as this list in case of planned outages, so they >> can >> take appropriate action. >> > > This is an excellent idea. Actually, can we extract e-mails from all > admins and put them together somewhere? If I still have the needed access, > I can take care of it. Fact is, I'm not sure that all admins follow this > list (and this should be fixed). Missing that, it's probably better to > contact them personally, or through an alias, as you wish. > I understood that there is a special mailing list for that kind of activity ? > > Making forums read-only is pretty easy, its a matter of disabling login >> and >> not allow anonymous posting. But then I will also ask the these forums are >> removed from the daily backup cycle. >> > > Sounds perfect to me. I guess Hagar's concern is the same as mine, i.e., > useful content should not be put offline. We can add a prominent note > saying that the forum is archived and that if someone is willing to > moderate it they can write to the dev list. > Somebody who knows how, need to add that...I think its a brilliant idea, if is html that needs to be uploaded I can take care of that part. > > And if I haven't written about this yet, thanks for being available to > take care of our VMs! > Np, please remember the logistic is not yet in place, hopefully the infra staff will soon find time to make it happen. rgds jan i. > > Regards, > Andrea. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
