On 05/05/2014 Jörg Schmidt wrote:
I respect in the presence the existing decisions of the Community
Rescuing this pre-outage discussion too... Note that in most cases these
are not decisions, just what happens to be active now. And in any case
we can revise it.
I think we need another real local communities as part of the international
community.
OK, so you mean: not only mailing list (that are easy to setup, for
example a mailing list in German dedicated to events), but also ways to
build a community. Here there's almost nothing we can do, say,
"top-bottom"; this must grow from local events.
in not a few cases, we have to decide whether we approve of local activities,
even
if they are not coordinated internationally, or whether we do without it.
Local activities do not need coordination or approval. When I speak (in
Italian) about OpenOffice at some nearby event, I don't ask for approval
on the project lists and I simply clarify, at the event, that I'm not
officially speaking on behalf of the project. The same holds for you and
anyone else. We surely doesn't want to control communication at this level.
A few weeks ago we had on the German mailing list, a discussion in which, for
example, Jürgen meant a FAQ website must always also primarily in the project
language (English) exist.
This would be a developer's dream but won't work for us. See
http://www.openoffice.org/
http://www.openoffice.org/da/
http://www.openoffice.org/fr/
http://www.openoffice.org/it/
They evolved with a totally different structure. This looks very bad and
must be fixed. The most reasonable way to me seems that we will have a
"common" part (English original, replicate for other languages; this
includes the layout) and a "specific" part where materials in native
language will be shown, specific to each language (documentation in
native language, announces about "local" events... OK there's a mixup
between languages and countries but you get the idea).
Another example is that we do not have a German-language forum, and currently no
people who want to do it. There are, however, for more than 10 years, the
outstanding German Forum http://de.openoffice.info.
Would not it be pragmatically useful if we the users completely equal recommend
this Forum?
Nothing prevents you from linking to a third party forum, especially if
we don't have
an official resource. (Maybe we'll want to check trademarks usage there,
but this is another issue).
I myself volunteer worked in the German OOo-community more than 7 years (I mean
OpenOffice_.org_ in this case) and I know quite accurately the former costs for
marketing in Germany, those were _one year_ significantly above 10,000.00 Euros
We don't have that budget available now. We do have a budget for
OpenOffice events, but it is a one-time budget from which I expect we
may spend a few thousands Euros/dollars per year. But in the next weeks
we will probably see changes about targeted donations (now not used at
Apache): this may allow to start dedicated fundraising campaigns if we
find it useful to do so.
Regards,
Andrea.
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