On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Hagar Delest <hagar.del...@laposte.net>wrote:

> Top posting.
> Thanks for this explanation!
> It will indeed help to temper some of the claims about these numbers.
>
> Hagar
>

Indeed, thank you! Who knew?


>
>
> Le 02/12/2013 19:24, Rob Weir a écrit :
>
>
>  You've probably seen various social media posts, blogs, articles,
>> etc., purporting to compare AOO and LO via commit statistics.  If you
>> poke a little you see that these are almost always derived from Ohloh.
>>   You can see our numbers here:
>>
>> https://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice
>>
>> It is important to keep in mind what exactly Ohloh is doing.  They are
>> looking at our Subversion repository, at the source and website
>> trunks, and tracking the commits made there.  But we have done our
>> most-significant code in branches, not in the trunk.  All of the
>> Sidebar work was done in a branch, all of the IAccesible2 work was
>> done in branch and all of the 4.0.1 work was done in a branch.  That's
>> how we do use Subversion:  develop new features in a branch and merge
>> to the trunk when stable.
>>
>> So how does Ohloh treat this approach to version control?  As an
>> example, look at how the IAccesible2 addition was treated:
>>
>> https://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice/commits/303139831
>>
>> As you can see, Ohloh sees this as a single commit.  Yes, 601 files
>> were modified, but it still shows up as only a single commit, because
>> Ohloh only sees the merge.  It does not see the actually underlying
>> development activity.
>>
>> A similar thing happened with the Sidebar feature as well.   The
>> development effort was accounted for as a single commit.
>>
>> LO, on the other hand, uses a different approach with git, and every
>> single one of their commits are registered by Ohloh, even if it is a
>> one-line change.   So comparing AOO and LO Ohloh stats is not a valid
>> comparison.
>>
>> Of course, this is not to blame Ohloh.  The fault is not in their
>> service.  The fault lies with those who take such numbers and do false
>> comparisons.  This is intellectually dishonest and I think we should
>> point this out wherever we see it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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