On 30-Nov-2013, at 17:45, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 30-Nov-2013, at 16:06, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Hagar Delest <hagar.del...@laposte.net> >> wrote: >>>> Le 27/11/2013 20:23, Rob Weir a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Yesterday we reached 80,072,389 downloads. >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, I also saw this: >>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=62425 (South >>>> Tyrol government to standardise on LibreOffice) and especially the quote >>>> from last post: "We opted for LibreOffice over OpenOffice because we >> think >>>> this gives us more guarantees. It has a more consistent and constantly >>>> growing community of developers and by statute has to be independent >> from >>>> corporations," Pfeifer said. >>>> >>> >>> 7000 desktops? Really? We get more than that many downloads every >>> *hour*, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year (on average). Just because >>> our users are anonymous does not make them any less relevant. >> >> Quite. >>> >>>> LibO is getting more and more momentum (French referential uses LibO >> too, >>>> something that will be implemented in more and more institutions). I >> wonder >>>> why AOO doesn't report similar successes. >>>> >>> >>> South Tyrol has been migration to OpenOffice for nearly a decade now. >>> I remember seeing them give a presentation on this at the Orvietto >>> OpenOffice.org conference, for example. Hopefully one of these years >>> they will complete this task. But this is hardly news. >>> >> >> Indeed. In fact, their effort has gone in cycles, and those cycles seem to >> me related to the job tenacity of a few. Of more interest, as it relates to >> actualities, would be Munich's migration but also other cities' in Italy. >> >> >>>> Are we lacking marketing power? Or key people? >>>> >>> >>> It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Any one migrating to >>> a free office suite as part of a migration to Linux will either take >>> LibreOffice or Calligra. If we want to give them the easy choice of >>> AOO as well then we need to get AOO packages for the distros. >>> Personally I don't think the Linux desktop is worth the effort. That >>> is my personal view, and I don't force it on anyone else, but that's >>> my honest opinion. >> >> I agree with Rob. > > > but...as a Linux person, this is somewhat sad for me -- although I > personally have NO problems with installation. This said, the ease of > installation on Linux seems to depend a lot on how easy your distro makes > installing non-repo packages. My major concern at this point in the > continuation of Linux packaging for AOO in some form. >
I think Rob means here that the effort to strongly market Linux in the face of corporate marketing muscle by Canonical is not worth it; that good Linux may also be reached by the high road, anyway. Besides, I personally think that Ubuntu's days are numbered, given the better alternatives out there and the very fast, very positive energies Linux engages. (At any rate, that's what I would mean. Given the choice of OSs, for a lot of stuff I tend toward Linux. It's easier. But I tend then toward non-Canonical Linuxes. Even easier.) And try installing OOo in the latest Ubuntu *as a non-developer.* Tell us about it :-). best louis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
