On 11/25/13 9:19 AM, jan i wrote:
> On 25 November 2013 08:56, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/23/13 5:18 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/2013 1:52 AM, jan i wrote:
>>>>> Not having the binaries on apache.org is for sure the simplest
>> solution,
>>>>> and if we can decide that, then I am sure infra wont have a problem.
>>>
>>> Actually, it was Infra who pushed for having the Apache mirrors as a
>>> secondary mirror network, after we followed their advice not to offer
>>> binaries from the Apache mirrors as a primary channel due to
>>> size/bandwidth constraints. I like the idea to have a secondary mirror
>>> network at Apache, while I find it too much if this delays our releases
>>> or requires us to change our processes.
>>>
>>>> what if we have single install with all langs at apache.org?  that way
>>>> it is there, but considerably smaller from a real estate perspective but
>>>> allows us to preserve binaries.
>>>> For user downloads @ sourceforge, we continue to have the 1 per lang
>>>> downloads that focus on the user.
>>>
>>> This sounds odd at first, but it could actually be a good solution. The
>>> multi-language build can be added to the SourceForge ones with minimal
>>> overhead, and it can be uploaded to the Apache mirrors very quickly. We
>>> would still have the possibility (this is an important one) to measure
>>> interest for the individual language builds by analyzing the SourceForge
>>> download data, while we would have the multi-language build available on
>>> both SF and Apache for archival and for those users who find this easier
>>> than download language packs.
>>
>> To repeat myself such a mulit-language install set make only sense from
>> my pov if the underlying code is able to select the UI language
>> automatically and chose the correct one for the office UI. Minimal
>> requirement would be an enhanced first start wizard that allow easy
>> selection of the preferred language.
>>
>> Keep in mind we are producing an end user application and this kind of
>> configuration should be done automatically for the user because many of
>> our users would be confused.
>>
> which is why we still have full language sets on SF, where our downloads
> happen.
> 
> but I do think you put our users lower than they are, there are also many
> users who install a en-US package and then additional languages, simply
> because we live in an international world.

these users are definitely not the group of users I have in mind and
they belong in a group of more experienced users which is fine.

I am not against a mulit-language set but I would like to do it more
user friendly. We talk here about an quick ad-hoc decision and people
give their +1 but nobody volunteered to make it complete. This is
something that I simply don't like and ii is my very own opinion.

Juergen


> 
> rgds
> jan I.
> 
> 
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>>
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