On 22 November 2013 10:34, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/22/13 9:52 AM, jan i wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > We have been discussion to reduce our footprint on the mirrors, see:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6654
> >
> > It would be wise of us to have this solved before we release 4.1, in
> order
> > not to have a potential delay.
>
> anybody is free to work on this, as always at Apache the work have to be
> done
>
> >
> > The base discussion (please correct me if I am wrong) is which of 2
> options
> > we want.
> >
> > 1) as today, 1 full image for every language (approx. 150Mb each). This
> > takes a lot of space on the mirrors, and lead to a little week for delay.
> > 2) 1 full image containing all languages (--with-language). This takes
> the
> > approx 200-250Mb). Advantage is fast copy to mirrors, users can online
> > switch language. Disavantage. Users need to download a bit more.
> >
> > I have no strong opinions, except I dont like that we take up soo much
> > space on the mirrors.
> >
>
> we talk here mainly about some disk space on Apache mirrors. I can't
> remember who wanted the binaries on the Apache mirrors I personally can
> live with the binaries on the SF mirrors.
>
> For me most important is that we reduce the downloads for our millions
> of users. I am open for a working solution that make the download and
> installation for our users in the same way easy as what we have today.
> Disk space is for me not really a good argument.
>
> If we would have a multi-language install set only we would need a
> proper setup that select the correct language, so that users don't have
> to deal with an English version by default. The got potentially lost!
>
> Synchronizing the bits once on the mirrors seems to be peanuts compared
> to the millions of downloads.
>
> And to be honest I don't see that anybody will work on this in the near
> future, that is at least my impression.
>
> I don't like that we try to move an internal, technical problem to our
> million of users.
>
Actually, I am one of millions who live abroad and use AOO with multiple
languages, so at the moment, I compile my own version --with-lang="da es
en-US" so it can be used.

But in general I agree with your point.

Not having the binaries on apache.org is for sure the simplest solution,
and if we can decide that, then I am sure infra wont have a problem.

rgds
jan I.


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> Juergen
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> > rgds
> > jan I.
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