On Nov 15, 2013 10:34 AM, "janI" <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > On 15 November 2013 18:59, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann < > > orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > On 15.11.2013 08:38, janI wrote: > > > > > >> On 15 November 2013 08:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann < > > >> orwittm...@googlemail.com > > >> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 15.11.2013 00:54, Kay Schenk wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:26 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 14 November 2013 03:32, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti < > > >>>>> pesce...@apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 12/09/2013 Kay Schenk wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Did we reach a consensus on this one? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Wait until 4.1 to "officially" change java build environment to 7? > > >>>>>>>> Buildbots are still at 6, although I know some of us are using 7 > > for > > >>>>>>>> building with no problems. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> We didn't reach consensus, the reason being (rather than > > >>>>>>> disagreement) > > >>>>>>> that it's unclear: > > >>>>>>> - what the proposal is about exactly > > >>>>>>> - what's broken in the current setup > > >>>>>>> - what's the impact on people who wish to build OpenOffice > > >>>>>>> - what's the impact on people who wish to use OpenOffice > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Now, after yet another discussion where we explain Java to each > > >>>>>>> other, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> we > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> can take for granted that we all know about it and move on and see > > >>>>>> what > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> proposal is about in concrete, so that is can be evaluated properly > > >>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>> maybe implemented in time for 4.1. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>> Andrea. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>>>>> --------- > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> OK, I'm back on this old thread. The thing is the security > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> considerations > > >>>>>> do not just apply to Windows. I suggest we switch to java 7 as > > >>>>>> default > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> and > > >>>>> > > >>>>> change the settings for "javacompiler" in configure.inappropriately > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>> deal with this. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Although by default, I build with java 7, I will make this change > > >>>>>> locally > > >>>>>> and see what happens. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> +1, so we use java 7 for development, but the final installation > > >>>>> still > > >>>>> runs > > >>>>> with both java 6 and java 7. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> rgds > > >>>>> jan I. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Well, in theory, yes. In practice -- I guess not. :( > > >>>> > > >>>> I changed my configure.in etc and rebuilt. Then a final stop with > > this > > >>>> message -- > > >>>> > > >>>> javac: source release 1.7 requires target release 1.7 > > >>>> > > >>>> in module jvmfwk > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The man page for javac (openJDK 7)has this info talks about "default" > > >>>> values for targets depending on source...here are the last bits of > > that > > >>>> > > >>>> o If -source is 1.5, the value of -target is 1.7 > > >>>> > > >>>> o If -source is 1.6, the value of -target is 1.7 > > >>>> > > >>>> o For all other values of -source, the value of -target is the > > value > > >>>> of > > >>>> -source. > > >>>> > > >>>> but no specific information saying iyou can NOT specify a target > > value > > >>>> that is below your source value. > > >>>> > > >>>> I imagine this is universal and not just specific to openJDK but I > > don't > > >>>> know for sure. > > >>>> > > >>>> Any other ideas? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On my attempt to build on Windows with Java 1.7 (Windows 7 64bit Home > > >>> Premium VM) I did the following: > > >>> After having setup the build environment via configure, bootstrap and > > >>> sourcing the creating 'winenv.set.sh' I set the environment variable > > >>> JAVAFLAGS to "-source 1.5 -target 1.5" by command > > >>> - export JAVAFLAGS='-source 1.5 -target 1.5' > > >>> > > >>> My build was sucessfull and the resulting installation set worked on a > > >>> different Windows machine with Java 1.6 > > >>> > > >>> > > >> I have done a similar thing on ubuntu 12.04, manually modified > > >> LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh and it builds correctly. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> Unfortunately, I did not continued my work on it - e.g. > > >>> - detecting the Java version during configure > > >>> - setting JAVAFLAGS automatically depending on the detected Java > > version > > >>> > > >>> > > >> It seems the right place to do this is configure.in. But why detect > > >> version, why not simple set the flags ? > > >> > > >> > > > Yes, you are right. > > > When it works in the build environment with all the different Java > > > versions this is the simply solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, Oliver. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately for this little trial, I apparently misunderstood the > > reasoning, and did this -- > > > > javac -source 1.7 -target 1.5 > > > > which javac got upset with, and thus my error. > > > > On the other hand, I did get a lot of warnings (I use verbose build option) > > -- not permanently kept -- that were no doubt about deprecated or changed > > methods in our current code. > > These may be useful to us, I don't know. > > > > How about making a BZ with the deprecated or changed methods, that could be > a nice task a java developer. >
Definitely! > > Maybe we don't need the "-source", just "-target"? > > > > On ubuntu, it assumed 1.7 if I did not specify -source, and that gave me a > lot of warnings (could be the same you saw). Adding -source 1.5 tell java > that the source is 1.5. > > > > > > I also changed some of the other java "requirements" in configure.in to > > require 1.7 for building. > > > > So, I will play with this more in the next few days, and report back. > > > > Looking forward to hear that, it seems we are many now working on changing > different parts of the build system. > > have a nice weekend. > rgds > jan I. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MzK > > > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > >
