On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >> The PMC receives requests, every couple of weeks, from book publishers >> >> for permission to use OpenOffice screenshots in a book. Most often >> >> they are asking to use a specific screenshot from the website that >> >> they have identified, such as: >> >> >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/product/pix/writer-big.png >> >> >> >> Generally, Apache permits the use of product screenshots in books, per >> >> the trademark policy here: >> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#insidebook >> >> >> >> However, that only covers the trademark. There is another rights >> >> owner to consider, the author of the document included in the >> >> screenshot, including any text, graphics, images, etc., displayed. Of >> >> course, the book publisher can avoid that issue by making their own >> >> screenshots. But that is extra work. Generally they are trying to >> >> clear permissions for dozens or hundreds of images. The more >> >> difficult we make it, the less likely they are use it. Since this is >> >> free publicity for us, we should try to make it easy for them to use. >> >> >> >> Another issue is that our posted screenshots are quite old. They >> >> don't reflect the new Apache branding. >> >> >> >> Here's how we can do better: >> >> >> >> 1) Create a set of "demo" documents that showcase the capabilities of >> >> OpenOffice. Use either public-domain text (Charles Dickens, for >> >> examples) or Loren Ipsum, or original text contributed to the project >> >> under ALv2 by the original authors. We want documents, for all of >> >> our applications. that look good, and are clearly under ALv2. >> >> >> >> Multilingual text would be ideal, or separate documents for different >> >> languages. (We do get requests from book publishers in many >> >> countries, so having a native-language screenshot is ideal) >> >> >> >> 2) Create screenshots for each document, on each platform Do it with >> >> AOO 3.4.1 for now. But plan on repeating with each major new release. >> >> Agree on screen resolutions, color depth, and image formats, so we >> >> have uniformity. >> >> >> >> 3) Host the screenshots online, along with text that explains their >> >> purpose and permissions. >> >> >> >> What do we think? I can help with the webpage and with screen shots >> >> on Windows. But I'll need help assembling a set of showcase demo >> >> files. >> >> >> >> Note: aside from book publishers, this will also be useful for >> >> journalists who want a screenshot for an article. >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > >> > I thought I remembered seeing a screenshot area on the web site once >> upon a >> > time, and here it is: >> > >> > http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/ >> > >> >> OK. That's the idea, certainly. I see variations for different >> languages there as well. But it is all very old, some of the >> screenshots from 2003, 10 years old! >> > > yes...I just wanted to point this out basically. > > >> > It took me a while to track this down though -- there's a link in the >> > marketing area which needs to be fixed to get you to this older area. >> > Originating from: >> > http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/marketing_where.html >> > >> >> I fixed that link. >> >> > Anyway, these are not standard by any means, but worth taking a look at I >> > suppose. Also NO mention of specific license which would need to be >> > included, etc. >> > >> > So, there is certainly a precedent for these. >> > >> > yes, we should update this area. Maybe a short blog for this kind of >> > request? >> > >> >> That's one approach. Ask for cool looking documents. Another would >> be to make our own, based on a theme. For example, we could pick some >> text, something classic, in the public domain, H.G. Wells, or Dickens, >> but something appropriate to openness, sharing, or other open source >> themes. Then use that text as a common element of our sample >> documents. And then make the sample documents look good. > > > The common works are a great idea! >
A quick prototype: http://www.robweir.com/screenshot.png Nothing fancy -- but it is based on public domain content. Could probably be improved, like with a border around the image, etc. -Rob > > >> This could >> work in Writer and Impress, where it is easy to put a quote. But not >> sure what to do about Calc... unless you make a chart of "four score >> and seven years ago" ;-) >> > > I'm sure with a little effort we could find something for Calc. State > budgets? Other publicly available expenditures? > > These kinds of screenshots would be great to "posterize" and take to booth > exhibits as well. They would be very eye catching. > > >> >> -Rob >> >> > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > MzK >> > >> > "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin." >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
