+1

Le dimanche 23 novembre 2014 21:34:31 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> +1 from me to...
> 
> On 11/23/14 8:48 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
> > I think this is a very good idea. But I have seen this mis-used a few
> > times in other projects, and I think we want to avoid this scenario:
> > 
> > There are some bugs that have very well written bug reports with
> > detailed descriptions on reproduction and/or quite a few watchers too.
> > I've seen this "rule" misused; some committer comes along and requests
> > some kind of additional information - sometimes the request can border
> > on the silly and maybe the committer does not really even understand
> > the problem (half of us really don't half the time - that's just the
> > way triaging works sometimes). So the issue gets closed because the
> > people who are familiar with the bug think it's a silly request to
> > make (and they might not even know its a committer making it - we have
> > no special distinctions in jira) and we basically piss off users.
> > 
> > So I think it's a good strategy for half-baked, potentially old and
> > half-clear issues (which there are a LOT of!). A hundred years ago
> > someone taught me that if one person reports something it can be
> > ignored, but when the second person reports it it's most likely a bug.
> > So any issue with just one "user" watcher should be pretty harmless (
> > I may sometimes watch issues but I really don't want to be counted as
> > a watcher...)
> > 
> > I just fixed/triaged well over a hundred bugs in maven-assembly-plugin
> > and out of the 56 remaining bugs there's probably 20-30 I'd want to
> > close this way.
> > 
> > I was about to create some heuristic about when to be careful with
> > such a rule, but I basically changed my mind :)
> > 
> > Actually maybe we should just say that after >30 days, we add an
> > additional message
> > 
> > "this issue will be closed as incomplete in 10 days unless the
> > requested information is supplied"; just to give a clear indication
> > that we mean it. A well defined process is much more important than
> > "hasty" closing. And if a different committer thinks the issue should
> > be kept open, it's all ok to say so in the issue.
> 
> Sounds really good to me...
> 
> > I am also slightly sceptical of carpet-bombing jira with this stuff;
> > once we request more test data we're also giving the expectation that
> > someone /will/ be looking at the additional data that the user has
> > supplied. So I would be expecting whoever triages with this method to
> > also be willing to do at least some followup...?
> > 
> > But this is overall just details on how to make this good; I'm +1 on
> > the proposal.
> > 
> > Kristian
> 
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbais
> 
> 
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