>----- Original Message ----
>From: André Wyrwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 12:16:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [Marketing] Including Google|Yahoo toolbars in OO Setup in 
>exchange for promotion?
>

>Hei,
>
>> >Get money to help OOo in many fields...
>> 
>> Not exactly. I was talking about publicity. 
>> If we can get money - we will find the way to deal with that, but that is 
>> not 
>> primary motivation.
>
>How do you get publicity by including a toolbar? It's all about money.

It is about getting something in exchange for something. We would get our ads 
displayed  when somebody searches for "office download" (or suchlike). Basically
store credit for AdWords.Or banner ads at Y. At least that was my initial idea. 
With G|Y we could get tens of thousands visitors per week and try converting 
them 
to users/contributors.

>The macromedia guys said that openly in response to the wide rage
>occurring when they introduced the Y/bar bundling.
>
>It was bad for their publicity; yes, also among folks which are not
>fundamentalist Free Software maniacs.

If I am not mistaken, there exists a saying "There is no such thing as bad 
publicity".

>
>Yes, you could use money for promotion, but it's money that you get in
>the first place, not publicity.
>
>In fact, bundling some crap you don't want is pretty bad for your image
>and every company doing it got marked with the "dodgy" stamp right away.

Many people happily and purposely install toolbar(s) and use them, so you 
can't outright call it "crap".

>
>> >Please don't feel offended - your goal is comprehensible. But in my (of 
>> >course personal) opinion it's the wrong way.
>
>I second that.
>
>André.

Thanks for that.
Shall we find better ways?

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