Thanks for constructive reply. See inline >----- Original Message ---- >From: Bernhard Dippold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 5:13:07 PM >Subject: Re: [Marketing] Including Google|Yahoo toolbars in OO Setup in >exchange for promotion? > > >Hi Kirill, > >Kirill Palagin (Y) schrieb: >> (I probably should have stated the reasoning behind the idea first) > >For me the reasoning was clear from the beginning: > >Get money to help OOo in many fields...
Not exactly. I was talking about publicity. If we can get money - we will find the way to deal with that, but that is not primary motivation. >> >> I very much would like OO to succeed and to me success is measured in >> number of users (both new and converted from competitors). > >For OOo success is measured not only in more users but in more >contributors - and you will lose many contributors, if they feel "sold" >to Yahoo or Google (you probably know that there are concerns about Sun >as major sponsor already). I just do not know - how many active contributors are outside of Sun? Can't we setup some kind of poll to see what people think of this idea (in fact I will try to setup something like this when I get home)? Besides, if people are offended by Sun being major sponsor, having second major sponsor might soften their concerns. > >> [...] >> >> Without some major promotion we would not get many new users and >> major promotions cost major money. I see only one way to earn this >> kind of money - allow somebody to piggyback on us. We are likely to >> loose some users and allienate some, but hopefully much more will >> come to us. > >You don't take in account the contributors. Hopefully, we will acquire contributors too. > >And there has been good promotional campaigns in the past - ask Benjamin >Horst about his experiences for example. Where can I read about that? >> >> So we either can play fundamentalism (Stallman-style) and pass good >> opportunity in the name of being free (also free from customers) or >> be pragmatic (like Linus Torvalds) and sacrifice a little to gain a >> lot. > >That's a bit polemic, isn't it? >- and you don't know if you sacrifice a lot to gain a little. >> >> And to reiterate the idea - I am not talking about modifying OO in >> any way, just including somebody's toolbar in installer (like we do >> for Java). > >OOo2 needs Java for full functionality - that's quite a difference. > >But you may find a contributor for a version (or contribute it yourself) >that includes the toolbar. If you donate the money you get back to the >community I am all for it. If I ever earn money with OO I would donate money to some developer to fix probems that hurt my users. ;-) > >But we avoid advertising in the program (except the splash screen) and >on our website (except some dedicated pages) on purpose - I don't think, >changing this attitude will help us more than keeping it. >> >> Thanks for reading this far. WBR, K. Palagin. > >Please don't feel offended - your goal is comprehensible. But in my (of >course personal) opinion it's the wrong way. Not a problem as long as we can find right way to promote our product and our project (with ultimate goal of having great product, enough contributors to keep up with the number of RFEs and big userbase (comparable to competitor)). WBR, K. Palagin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
