Hi Kirill,

I have a few questions that may help clarify your proposal.

Would this be a special installer that is only available on certain sites
(like a special download site from Google and/or Yahoo)?  Or, let me ask it
another way.  Would there be a way to get an up-to-date installer *without*
the toolbar option even included in the installer?  And, if so, would the
"official" installer from OpenOffice.org be a toolbar-free or a
toolbar-included installer?

Would the toolbar option be selected to install by default?  (If it is
something that the users has to actively click a button to say "Yes I want
the toolbar" that may silence some critics - not all, but some.)

Would this "partnership" generate monatary income for the project, or just
greater publicity (as Google/Yahoo would be actively promoting the download
of OpenOffice.org)?  If so, who would actually control the money?  Where
would the money go?

On 2/3/07, Bernhard Dippold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> So we either can play fundamentalism (Stallman-style) and pass good
> opportunity in the name of being free (also free from customers) or
> be pragmatic (like Linus Torvalds) and sacrifice a little to gain a
> lot.

That's a bit polemic, isn't it?
- and you don't know if you sacrifice a lot to gain a little.


First of all, OpenOffice.org cannot be Stallman-style fundamentalistic,
(despite what some people want to believe) because of (a) their inclusion of
Java-based components, (b) their total dependence on Sun Microsystems - and
not volunteer contributors, and (c) their LGPL license.  So endevouring to
cling to this unacheivable goal seems like a waste of time to me.
OpenOffice.org will never be Stallman-style "FREE Software".  I don't see
any point in trying to be.  (For OpenOffice.org or for any piece of
software.  I am much more of a Linus than a Richard.)

Secondly, by doing this as a project, generating our own non-Sun money, we
would actually be making ourselves more free.  Many people won't contribute
to this project because of its tight relationship to Sun - this would help
break that image.

I think that if there was a way (even if it wasn't as visible as the other)
to download OpenOffice.org - the latest release - without any toolbars or
options for toolbars - and as long as where the money goes and how it is
distributed is handled well - then it is a good idea.

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- Chad Smith
http://www.chadwsmith.com/

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