Hi Rafaella & dev's

I would like to express my deep disapointment with this situation.

I just can't figure why we, translators, have to fix code refactoring l10n issues, without any early notice and with apparently not a miminal concern from the developers with respect to the overload they inflict to us. Our job is not a lesser job, and we produce what our NL users see first-hand in the software.

I am not concerned on re-work thru automatic cut-&-paste on something already done long time ago. I am concerned on the error and mistakes we will for sure introduce each time we have to edit a po file that has been committed years before, with almost no backup or easy traceback procedure to recover the precise string used at that time. As said in this thread, it is the same workload as if it was new.

So, I beg you to work on how to stop this.

Kind regards from Rio
Olivier

Em 22-06-2010 09:42, Rafaella Braconi escreveu:
Hi Olivier,

On 22.06.10 11:59, Olivier Hallot wrote:
Hi Rafaella

It is (so far) in the UI.

Please take a look, for instance, at the CUI folder as it contains all strings for the options, the dialogs, tab pages and customization. This is something ready from the begining of the project. Other folders seems to have the same problem, and I have no way to easily point what went wrong.

the problem is always that whenever there is a resource shifting it's very difficult to keep the translations... I wonder if 3.2 tmx files would help to recover old translations.

They can be found at: http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/tmx32/

In summary, pt-BR UI got back to 90% of translated strings (from 100%) and that does not seem correct with respect to the new features announced for OO 3.3.

On a side note, I really think we need a version control on the po files...
I think that a more powerful translation memory in Pootle would help...

Rafaella

Olivier

Em 22-06-2010 04:54, Rafaella Braconi escreveu:
Hi Olivier,

On 21.06.10 21:48, Olivier Hallot wrote:
Hi Rafaella

Is Pootle already loaded with the new strings?
yes, it has been updated with milestone 83.

Because I had a glimpse at the pt-BR strings and had a bad feeling
that several files were reset to zero translation,
Are you talking about Help or UI strings? Can you provide some examples
so that we can try to verify?

Thanks,
rafaella
or there is a shuffling among them and no track on what have changed.

Also, looking at the feature freeze page, it seems to me that we
should not have that much to translate.

Thanks
Regards



Em 21-06-2010 13:42, Rafaella Braconi escreveu:
Hi André,

André Schnabel ha scritto:
Hi,


Am 21.06.2010 18:13, schrieb Rafaella Braconi:
Hi André,

but the curect update already introduced
UI: ~9000 words
Help: ~20000 words

You are completely right. I forgot to add the fuzzy matches....

hmm but this would mean, that second handover will bring almost no
more new strings in? Can you confirm this?
With the m83 almost all changes - especially in the Help - have
already been integrated. With the second handoff there will be some
additional changes, but at the moment I don't have any estimates
about their volume. As soon as I have any updates, I'll let you know.
In the meanwhile, I would encourage all the teams to use this time to
translate before the second handoff.

Regards,
Rafaella

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