>
> I was wondering about the message versus record question. The fact that we
> already have MessagesInPerSec seemed to favour the former. The other aspect
> is that for produce requests, we can up convert as well, so it seemed
> better to keep it generic.


Yeah, so I thought maybe we could bypass the question and drop `Message`
from the names if they were already clear enough. I'm fine with either way.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:

> I was wondering about the message versus record question. The fact that we
> already have MessagesInPerSec seemed to favour the former. The other aspect
> is that for produce requests, we can up convert as well, so it seemed
> better to keep it generic.
>
> Ismael
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 Lots of good stuff in here.
> >
> > One minor nit: in the name `FetchDownConversionsPerSec`, it's implicit
> that
> > down-conversion is for messages. Could we do the same for
> > `MessageConversionsTimeMs` and drop the `Message`? Then we don't have to
> > decide if it should be 'Record' instead.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Rajini.
> > >
> > > 1. I meant a topic metric, but we could have one for fetch and one for
> > > produce differentiated by the additional tag. The advantage is that the
> > > name would be consistent with the request metric for message
> conversions.
> > > However, on closer inspection, this would make the name inconsistent
> with
> > > the broker topic metrics:
> > >
> > > val totalProduceRequestRate =
> > > newMeter(BrokerTopicStats.TotalProduceRequestsPerSec, "requests",
> > > TimeUnit.SECONDS, tags)
> > > val totalFetchRequestRate =
> > > newMeter(BrokerTopicStats.TotalFetchRequestsPerSec, "requests",
> > > TimeUnit.SECONDS, tags)
> > >
> > > So, we maybe we can instead go for FetchMessageConversionsPerSecond
> and
> > > ProduceMessageConversionsPerSec.
> > >
> > > 2. Sounds good.
> > >
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ismael,
> > > >
> > > > 1. At the moment FetchDownConversionsPerSec is a topic metric while
> > > > MessageConversionTimeMs is a request metric which indicates
> > Produce/Fetch
> > > > as a tag. Are you suggesting that we should convert
> > > > FetchDownConversionsPerSec to a request metric called
> > > > MessageConversionsPerSec
> > > > for fetch requests?
> > > >
> > > > 2. TemporaryMessageSize for Produce/Fetch would indicate the space
> > > > allocated for conversions. For other requests, this metric will not
> be
> > > > created (unless we find a request where the size is large and this
> > > > information is useful).
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Rajini
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Rajini, +1 (binding) from me. Just a few minor comments:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. FetchDownConversionsPerSec should probably be
> > > MessageConversionsPerSec
> > > > > with a request tag for consistency with MessageConversionsTimeMs.
> The
> > > > text
> > > > > in that paragraph should also be updated to talk about message
> > > > conversions
> > > > > instead of down conversions only.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. What will TemporaryMemorySize represent for requests other than
> > > > > `ProduceRequest`?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ismael
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > > rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All the suggestions on the discuss thread have been incorporated
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > > KIP. Please let me know if you have any more concerns or else can
> > we
> > > > > > proceed with voting for this KIP?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rajini
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > > > rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to start the vote on KIP-188 that adds additional
> > > > metrics
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > support health checks for Kafka Ops. Details are here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > > > > > 188+-+Add+new+metrics+to+support+health+checks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rajini
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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