Hey David Can I please request an exceptional extension for KIP-1030 [1] which aims to change configuration defaults and add some new constraints for our configuration? Since these are backward incompatible changes, if they don't go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release them would be the next major version.
I understand that the KIP was filed last minute very close to the freeze. Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka maintenance this KIP could have, I would request to consider this KIP for 4.0 even after the freeze. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations -- Divij Vaidya On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze is on 20th November 2024, > one week from today. > > Best, > David > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Kamal, > > > > Just added them in to the release plan. > > > > Thanks. > > Luke > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal Chandraprakash < > > kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Luke, > > > > > > Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the release plan. > > > KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > > KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a voting thread soon. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Kamal > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Alyssa, > > > > > > > > I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Luke > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang > > <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks David for being the release manager for 4.0! > > > > > I noticed the release plan > > > > > < > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0> > > > > > does > > > > > not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, can I edit the page to add > > it? > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Alyssa > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi TengYao Chi, > > > > > > > > > > > > The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. November 20th. So if > > KIP-1092 > > > > has > > > > > > been accepted already, it should make it into 4.0 without any > > further > > > > > > discussion (assuming the code is ready by feature freeze.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi wrote: > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request the inclusion of KIP-1092 in the 4.0 > > > release > > > > > > plan. > > > > > > > This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it will bring > valuable > > > > > > > enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka Streams > components. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for considering this addition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > TengYao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 2024年10月11日 週五 上午12:22寫道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA for that > > specifically > > > > > yet.) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> best, > > > > > > >> Colin > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot wrote: > > > > > > >> > Hi Colin, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include removing > > --zookeeper > > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Best, > > > > > > >> > David > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin McCabe < > > > cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> We have been using > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > > > > > as > > > > > > >> >> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks. Progress has been > > > pretty > > > > > > >> rapid, I > > > > > > >> >> do think we will get there by January. (Well hopefully even > > > > earlier > > > > > > :) > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> best, > > > > > > >> >> Colin > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > Hi Luke, > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > That's a good point. I think that we should try to stick > to > > > the > > > > > > dates > > > > > > >> >> > though. In my opinion, we should ensure that ZK and all > the > > > > > related > > > > > > >> >> public > > > > > > >> >> > facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code freeze. The simplest > > way > > > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > >> >> > have an epic for the removal with all the related tasks. > We > > > can > > > > > > then > > > > > > >> mark > > > > > > >> >> > it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already have one. Let me > > > search > > > > > > >> around. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > Best, > > > > > > >> >> > David > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen < > > show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Hi David, > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> The release plan looks good to me. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> But since the 4.0 release is a release without ZK, I'm > > > > wondering > > > > > > if > > > > > > >> we > > > > > > >> >> >> should list some release criteria for it? > > > > > > >> >> >> The Problem I can imagine is like, when the code freeze > > date > > > > is > > > > > > >> reached, > > > > > > >> >> >> but there are still many ZK removal tasks open, what > > should > > > we > > > > > do > > > > > > >> with > > > > > > >> >> >> them? We can remove the rest of codes in later releases, > > but > > > > if > > > > > > there > > > > > > >> >> are > > > > > > >> >> >> still some public APIs related to ZK open for users to > > use, > > > is > > > > > > that > > > > > > >> >> still > > > > > > >> >> >> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` option in > > > > > > kafka-configs.sh? > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> Instead of only using time-based management in v4.0, I'm > > > > > > suggesting > > > > > > >> we > > > > > > >> >> >> should list some "must-do" tasks and track them when > > > milestone > > > > > > date > > > > > > >> >> >> approaches. And we can discuss with the community if > there > > > are > > > > > > some > > > > > > >> >> delayed > > > > > > >> >> >> tasks. Does that make sense? > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> Thanks. > > > > > > >> >> >> Luke > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David Jacot > > > > > > >> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > Hi all, > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I have drafted the release plan for Apache Kafka > 4.0.0: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > . > > > > > > >> >> >> > Please take a look and let me know what you think. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I would also appreciate it if you could review the > list > > of > > > > > KIPs > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > >> >> we > > > > > > >> >> >> > will ship in this release. I took the list from the > > > approved > > > > > > list > > > > > > >> in > > > > > > >> >> the > > > > > > >> >> >> > wiki but I am pretty sure that the list is not > accurate. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Best, > > > > > > >> >> >> > Davud > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke Chen < > > > > show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > +1 from me. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Since v4.0 will be a huge change release, I'm not > sure > > > if > > > > > you > > > > > > >> need > > > > > > >> >> >> > another > > > > > > >> >> >> > > person (vice release manager?) to help on releasing > > > tasks. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > If so, I'm willing to help. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Thanks. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Luke > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin McCabe < > > > > > > cmcc...@apache.org > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > +1. Thanks, David. > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > best, > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > Colin > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris Egerton > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Thanks David! +1 > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José Armando García > > > Sancio > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> +1, thanks for volunteering David! > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM David Arthur < > > > > > > >> >> mum...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > +1, thanks David! > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM Satish > > Duggana < > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > +1 > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > Thanks David for volunteering! > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, Lianet M. < > > > > > > >> >> liane...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > +1 > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > Thanks David! > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. Justine > > > Olshan > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > +1 and thanks! > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 6:36 AM > Chia-Ping > > > > Tsai > > > > > < > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > chia7...@gmail.com > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > +1 and thanks David for volunteering! 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