Hi Tina, I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan.
Thanks. Luke On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa Selenge <gsele...@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has now passed the voting so it > does not need an exceptional extension anymore. Can we please include it in > the release plan? > > Thank you. > Regards, > Tina > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa Selenge <gsele...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Can I also please request an exceptional extension for KIP-1073 [1] which > > allows getting fenced brokers via AdminClient. This is particularly > > important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, because brokers need to be > > unregistered first but currently there is no way to list the brokers in > > order to unregister once they are shut down/fenced. > > > > This KIP has been open for voting for over a month and has currently 2 > > binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also have raised a draft PR for > the > > implementation [3]. > > > > Since it's missing just one more binding +1 and the implementation is > > ready for review, it would be great to include it in 4.0.0. > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > [3] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > > > Regards, > > Tina > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi Divij, > >> > >> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 to make the kafka default > value > >> more reasonable, instead of doing it until v5.0.0. > >> What do you think, @David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> ? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> Luke > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hey David > >> > > >> > Can I please request an exceptional extension for KIP-1030 [1] which > >> aims > >> > to change configuration defaults and add some new constraints for our > >> > configuration? Since these are backward incompatible changes, if they > >> don't > >> > go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release them would be the next > >> major > >> > version. > >> > > >> > I understand that the KIP was filed last minute very close to the > >> freeze. > >> > Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka maintenance this KIP > >> could > >> > have, I would request to consider this KIP for 4.0 even after the > >> freeze. > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Divij Vaidya > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi all, > >> > > > >> > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze is on 20th November > >> 2024, > >> > > one week from today. > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > David > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Hi Kamal, > >> > > > > >> > > > Just added them in to the release plan. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks. > >> > > > Luke > >> > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal Chandraprakash < > >> > > > kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Luke, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the release plan. > >> > > > > KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > >> > > > > KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a voting thread soon. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > Kamal > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Alyssa, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks. > >> > > > > > Luke > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang > >> > > > <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks David for being the release manager for 4.0! > >> > > > > > > I noticed the release plan > >> > > > > > > < > >> > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0> > >> > > > > > > does > >> > > > > > > not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, can I edit the page > to > >> > add > >> > > > it? > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > Alyssa > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin McCabe < > >> > cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi TengYao Chi, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. November 20th. So > if > >> > > > KIP-1092 > >> > > > > > has > >> > > > > > > > been accepted already, it should make it into 4.0 without > >> any > >> > > > further > >> > > > > > > > discussion (assuming the code is ready by feature freeze.) > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > > > Colin > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > Hi David, > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I would like to request the inclusion of KIP-1092 in the > >> 4.0 > >> > > > > release > >> > > > > > > > plan. > >> > > > > > > > > This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it will bring > >> > > valuable > >> > > > > > > > > enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka Streams > >> > > components. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thank you for considering this addition. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > > > TengYao > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 2024年10月11日 週五 > >> > 上午12:22寫道： > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA for that > >> > > > specifically > >> > > > > > > yet.) > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> best, > >> > > > > > > > >> Colin > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > Hi Colin, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include removing > >> > > > --zookeeper > >> > > > > > > from > >> > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > >> > command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)? > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Best, > >> > > > > > > > >> > David > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin McCabe < > >> > > > > cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> Hi David & Luke, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> We have been using > >> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > >> > > > > > > > as > >> > > > > > > > >> >> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks. Progress > has > >> > been > >> > > > > pretty > >> > > > > > > > >> rapid, I > >> > > > > > > > >> >> do think we will get there by January. (Well > hopefully > >> > even > >> > > > > > earlier > >> > > > > > > > :) > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> best, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> Colin > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > Hi Luke, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > That's a good point. I think that we should try to > >> > stick > >> > > to > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > dates > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > though. In my opinion, we should ensure that ZK > and > >> all > >> > > the > >> > > > > > > related > >> > > > > > > > >> >> public > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code freeze. The > >> > simplest > >> > > > way > >> > > > > > > would > >> > > > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > >> to > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > have an epic for the removal with all the related > >> > tasks. > >> > > We > >> > > > > can > >> > > > > > > > then > >> > > > > > > > >> mark > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already have one. > >> Let > >> > me > >> > > > > search > >> > > > > > > > >> around. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > Best, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > David > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen < > >> > > > show...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Hi David, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> The release plan looks good to me. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> But since the 4.0 release is a release without > ZK, > >> I'm > >> > > > > > wondering > >> > > > > > > > if > >> > > > > > > > >> we > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> should list some release criteria for it? > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> The Problem I can imagine is like, when the code > >> > freeze > >> > > > date > >> > > > > > is > >> > > > > > > > >> reached, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> but there are still many ZK removal tasks open, > >> what > >> > > > should > >> > > > > we > >> > > > > > > do > >> > > > > > > > >> with > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> them? We can remove the rest of codes in later > >> > releases, > >> > > > but > >> > > > > > if > >> > > > > > > > there > >> > > > > > > > >> >> are > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> still some public APIs related to ZK open for > >> users to > >> > > > use, > >> > > > > is > >> > > > > > > > that > >> > > > > > > > >> >> still > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` option > in > >> > > > > > > > kafka-configs.sh? > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Instead of only using time-based management in > >> v4.0, > >> > I'm > >> > > > > > > > suggesting > >> > > > > > > > >> we > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> should list some "must-do" tasks and track them > >> when > >> > > > > milestone > >> > > > > > > > date > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> approaches. And we can discuss with the community > >> if > >> > > there > >> > > > > are > >> > > > > > > > some > >> > > > > > > > >> >> delayed > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> tasks. Does that make sense? > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Thanks. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Luke > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David Jacot > >> > > > > > > > >> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Hi all, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I have drafted the release plan for Apache > Kafka > >> > > 4.0.0: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > > . > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Please take a look and let me know what you > >> think. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I would also appreciate it if you could review > >> the > >> > > list > >> > > > of > >> > > > > > > KIPs > >> > > > > > > > >> that > >> > > > > > > > >> >> we > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > will ship in this release. I took the list from > >> the > >> > > > > approved > >> > > > > > > > list > >> > > > > > > > >> in > >> > > > > > > > >> >> the > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > wiki but I am pretty sure that the list is not > >> > > accurate. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Best, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Davud > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke Chen < > >> > > > > > show...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > +1 from me. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Since v4.0 will be a huge change release, I'm > >> not > >> > > sure > >> > > > > if > >> > > > > > > you > >> > > > > > > > >> need > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > another > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > person (vice release manager?) to help on > >> > releasing > >> > > > > tasks. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > If so, I'm willing to help. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Thanks. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > Luke > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin McCabe > < > >> > > > > > > > cmcc...@apache.org > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > +1. Thanks, David. > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > best, > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > Colin > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris > Egerton > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Thanks David! +1 > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José Armando > >> > García > >> > > > > Sancio > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> +1, thanks for volunteering David! > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM David > >> > Arthur < > >> > > > > > > > >> >> mum...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > +1, thanks David! > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM > Satish > >> > > > Duggana < > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > +1 > >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > Thanks David for volunteering! 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