Hi TengYao Chi,

The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. November 20th. So if KIP-1092 has been 
accepted already, it should make it into 4.0 without any further discussion 
(assuming the code is ready by feature freeze.)

Cheers,
Colin

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I would like to request the inclusion of KIP-1092 in the 4.0 release plan.
> This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it will bring valuable
> enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka Streams components.
>
> Thank you for considering this addition.
>
> Best,
> TengYao
>
> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 2024年10月11日 週五 上午12:22寫道:
>
>> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA for that specifically yet.)
>>
>> best,
>> Colin
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot wrote:
>> > Hi Colin,
>> >
>> > Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include removing --zookeeper from the
>> > command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > David
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi David & Luke,
>> >>
>> >> We have been using https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 as
>> >> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks.  Progress has been pretty
>> rapid, I
>> >> do think we will get there by January. (Well hopefully even earlier :)
>> >>
>> >> best,
>> >> Colin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot wrote:
>> >> > Hi Luke,
>> >> >
>> >> > That's a good point. I think that we should try to stick to the dates
>> >> > though. In my opinion, we should ensure that ZK and all the related
>> >> public
>> >> > facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code freeze. The simplest way would be
>> to
>> >> > have an epic for the removal with all the related tasks. We can then
>> mark
>> >> > it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already have one. Let me search
>> around.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > David
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi David,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The release plan looks good to me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But since the 4.0 release is a release without ZK, I'm wondering if
>> we
>> >> >> should list some release criteria for it?
>> >> >> The Problem I can imagine is like, when the code freeze date is
>> reached,
>> >> >> but there are still many ZK removal tasks open, what should we do
>> with
>> >> >> them? We can remove the rest of codes in later releases, but if there
>> >> are
>> >> >> still some public APIs related to ZK open for users to use, is that
>> >> still
>> >> >> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` option in kafka-configs.sh?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Instead of only using time-based management in v4.0, I'm suggesting
>> we
>> >> >> should list some "must-do" tasks and track them when milestone date
>> >> >> approaches. And we can discuss with the community if there are some
>> >> delayed
>> >> >> tasks. Does that make sense?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >> Luke
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David Jacot
>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
>> >> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have drafted the release plan for Apache Kafka 4.0.0:
>> >> >> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0.
>> >> >> > Please take a look and let me know what you think.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I would also appreciate it if you could review the list of KIPs
>> that
>> >> we
>> >> >> > will ship in this release. I took the list from the approved list
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> >> > wiki but I am pretty sure that the list is not accurate.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> > Davud
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > +1 from me.
>> >> >> > > Since v4.0 will be a huge change release, I'm not sure if you
>> need
>> >> >> > another
>> >> >> > > person (vice release manager?) to help on releasing tasks.
>> >> >> > > If so, I'm willing to help.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks.
>> >> >> > > Luke
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > +1. Thanks, David.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > best,
>> >> >> > > > Colin
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris Egerton wrote:
>> >> >> > > > > Thanks David! +1
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José Armando García Sancio
>> >> >> > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> +1, thanks for volunteering David!
>> >> >> > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM David Arthur <
>> >> mum...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> >
>> >> >> > > > >> > +1, thanks David!
>> >> >> > > > >> >
>> >> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM Satish Duggana <
>> >> >> > > > >> satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > > >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > +1
>> >> >> > > > >> > > Thanks David for volunteering!
>> >> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, Lianet M. <
>> >> liane...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > +1
>> >> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > Thanks David!
>> >> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. Justine Olshan
>> >> >> > > > >> > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > +1 and thanks!
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 6:36 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
>> >> >> > > > chia7...@gmail.com
>> >> >> > > > >> >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > +1 and thanks David for volunteering!
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > Best,
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > Chia-Ping
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid> 於
>> >> 2024年9月23日
>> >> >> 週一
>> >> >> > > > >> 下午9:13寫道:
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks David for volunteering!
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > +1
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 3:11 PM David Jacot
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all,
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I would like to volunteer to be the release
>> >> manager
>> >> >> > > > driving
>> >> >> > > > >> the
>> >> >> > > > >> > > next
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > release - Apache Kafka 4.0.0.
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > If there are no objections, I'll start
>> building a
>> >> >> > > release
>> >> >> > > > >> plan
>> >> >> > > > >> > > in the
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > wiki
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > in the next couple of days.
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Best,
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > David
>> >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
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