Hi David & Luke,

We have been using https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 as the 
umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks.  Progress has been pretty rapid, I do think 
we will get there by January. (Well hopefully even earlier :) 

best,
Colin


On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot wrote:
> Hi Luke,
>
> That's a good point. I think that we should try to stick to the dates
> though. In my opinion, we should ensure that ZK and all the related public
> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code freeze. The simplest way would be to
> have an epic for the removal with all the related tasks. We can then mark
> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already have one. Let me search around.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> The release plan looks good to me.
>>
>> But since the 4.0 release is a release without ZK, I'm wondering if we
>> should list some release criteria for it?
>> The Problem I can imagine is like, when the code freeze date is reached,
>> but there are still many ZK removal tasks open, what should we do with
>> them? We can remove the rest of codes in later releases, but if there are
>> still some public APIs related to ZK open for users to use, is that still
>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` option in kafka-configs.sh?
>>
>> Instead of only using time-based management in v4.0, I'm suggesting we
>> should list some "must-do" tasks and track them when milestone date
>> approaches. And we can discuss with the community if there are some delayed
>> tasks. Does that make sense?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Luke
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have drafted the release plan for Apache Kafka 4.0.0:
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0.
>> > Please take a look and let me know what you think.
>> >
>> > I would also appreciate it if you could review the list of KIPs that we
>> > will ship in this release. I took the list from the approved list in the
>> > wiki but I am pretty sure that the list is not accurate.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Davud
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1 from me.
>> > > Since v4.0 will be a huge change release, I'm not sure if you need
>> > another
>> > > person (vice release manager?) to help on releasing tasks.
>> > > If so, I'm willing to help.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > > Luke
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > +1. Thanks, David.
>> > > >
>> > > > best,
>> > > > Colin
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris Egerton wrote:
>> > > > > Thanks David! +1
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José Armando García Sancio
>> > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> +1, thanks for volunteering David!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > +1, thanks David!
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM Satish Duggana <
>> > > > >> satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > +1
>> > > > >> > > Thanks David for volunteering!
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, Lianet M. <liane...@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > +1
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > Thanks David!
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. Justine Olshan
>> > > > >> > > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
>> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > +1 and thanks!
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 6:36 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
>> > > > chia7...@gmail.com
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > +1 and thanks David for volunteering!
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > Best,
>> > > > >> > > > > > Chia-Ping
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid> 於 2024年9月23日
>> 週一
>> > > > >> 下午9:13寫道:
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks David for volunteering!
>> > > > >> > > > > > > +1
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 3:11 PM David Jacot
>> > > > >> > > > > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > I would like to volunteer to be the release manager
>> > > > driving
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > > next
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > release - Apache Kafka 4.0.0.
>> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > If there are no objections, I'll start building a
>> > > release
>> > > > >> plan
>> > > > >> > > in the
>> > > > >> > > > > > > wiki
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > in the next couple of days.
>> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > Best,
>> > > > >> > > > > > > > David
>> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
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