Hello Josep, I think this KIP is a great addition to the community that we now have a crystal-clear definition for the state of a feature.
In the current proposal, I think Level 1 is defined as the stage where a feature is "incomplete and unusable", while Level 2 represents a feature that is "usable but potentially incomplete". The distinction between these two levels might not always be clear, especially during the transition of a feature from "unusable" to "usable but incomplete". IMHO, to simplify the process and reduce confusion for both developers and users, I would suggest merging Level 1 and Level 2 into a single unified level. This merged level could cover the entire phase from when a feature is unstable to when it becomes usable but incomplete. WYDT? Best regards, TengYao Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid> 於 2024年8月19日 週一 上午2:58寫道： > Hi Chia-Ping, > > As far as I can tell, Tiered Storage is still at level 3. I think the > intention would be to declare it level 4 in 4.0.0. > KIP-848 was in level 2 in Kafka 3.7. and it went level 3 in Kafka 3.8. > Level 4 features would be for example MirrorMaker2 for example. As far as I > understand the Docker image is level 4. > > Does that make sense? If so I can update the KIP with those examples. > > Best, > > ------------------ > Josep Prat > Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 | aiven.io > Aiven Deutschland GmbH > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa, Hannu Valtonen, > Anna Richardson, Kenneth Chen > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2024, 21:46 Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > hi Josep > > > > Although I didn't join the discussion before, the KIP is interesting and > > great to me. > > > > one small comment: > > > > Could you please add existent features as an example to each level for > the > > readers who have poor reading (like me) ? For instance, I guess the new > > coordinator is level 3? tiered storage is level 4? > > > > Best, > > Chia-Ping > > > > > > > > Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid> 於 2024年8月19日 週一 上午2:13寫道： > > > > > Hi all, > > > I want to start a discussion for KIP-1081: Graduation Steps for > Features. > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1081%3A+Graduation+Steps+for+Features > > > > > > We already had a bit of a discussion here > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/5z6rxvs9m0bro5ssmtg8qcgdk40882bz and > > that > > > materialized into this KIP. > > > > > > I deliberately defined the graduation steps without giving them a name, > > so > > > we don't go bike-shedding there. There is a separate section for the > > names > > > of each step. Also an alternative set of names. I'd like to get some > > > feedback on the steps, and also on the names for the steps. > > > > > > Looking forward to your opinions, and hopefully only a tiny bit of > > > bike-shedding :) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > -- > > > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > > > > > > *Josep Prat* > > > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > > > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > > > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | < > > https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > > > > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> < > > > https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa, Hannu Valtonen, > > > Anna Richardson, Kenneth Chen > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > > > > >
