Hi Justine, Marking MV 3.8-IV0 as latest production MV is done in this PR (I did both together) https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400
Best, ------------------ Josep Prat Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 | aiven.io Aiven Deutschland GmbH Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 00:52 Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > The PR is merged. I lowered the severity of the blocker ticket as we still > have the change in trunk to merge. However, the 3.8 release is no longer > blocked by KAFKA-17050. > I think that was the remaining blocker. The other ones are either already > fixed for 3.8 (KAFKA-17011) or diverted to 3.9 (KAFKA-16840) > > I think there was one more needed change to mark MV 3.8-IV0 as latest > production MV. I will follow up with that. > > Justine > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:34 PM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io> > wrote: > > > Here is the PR: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16478 > > > > Justine > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:21 PM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io> > > wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> Thanks for your patience. After some discussion, we decided to revert > >> group version from 3.8 since there were too many complexities associated > >> with getting it to work. > >> I've downgraded the severity of KAFKA-17011 to not be a blocker and > >> opened a ticket (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17050) to > >> revert from 3.8 (and 3.9) as a blocker instead. I hope to get the PR out > >> shortly. > >> This one should be less controversial and merged quickly. > >> > >> Thanks again, > >> Justine > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 1:22 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I just wanted to ask again for your help in reviewing these 2 last > >>> blockers > >>> for the 3.8.0 release: > >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400 > >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16420 > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:27 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi all, > >>> > > >>> > We currently have a couple of blockers for the 3.8.0 release. These > are > >>> > the following: > >>> > - Reverting commit KAFKA-16154 and mark latest production metadata as > >>> > 3.8.0: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400 > >>> > - Fix some failing system tests: > >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16420 > >>> > Can we get some eyes on these 2 PRs? Thanks! > >>> > > >>> > To easily track this in feature releases, I created a new label > called > >>> > "Blocker" the idea is to mark PRs that are solving an Issue marked as > >>> > "blocker". This might increase visibility and help getting those > >>> reviewed > >>> > promptly. Here is the link to the PRs with this label: > >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/labels/Blocker > >>> > > >>> > Best, > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 7:09 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Thanks for the heads up Justine! > >>> >> > >>> >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 5:54 PM Justine Olshan > >>> >> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> Sorry to derail this conversation, but just wanted to share we > have a > >>> >>> system test blocker with > >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16990. > >>> >>> Hopefully we can fix this in the next day or so. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Justine > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:19 PM David Jacot < > david.ja...@gmail.com> > >>> >>> wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I meant it from a time perspective, not from a branching point > >>> >>> perspective. > >>> >>> > Sorry for the confusion. As said in the other thread, doing it > four > >>> >>> months > >>> >>> > after 3.9 is desirable for KIP-848 as I expect that we will need > >>> time > >>> >>> to > >>> >>> > stabilize everything after switching all the default configs once > >>> 3.9 > >>> >>> is > >>> >>> > cut. > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > David > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 19:33, Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> > a > >>> >>> écrit : > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > Why would 4.0 be based on 3.8? My understanding is, that it > will > >>> be > >>> >>> > > based on 3.9. > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > -Matthias > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > On 6/14/24 11:22 PM, David Jacot wrote: > >>> >>> > > > I agree that we should keep 4.0 time-based. My question is > >>> based on > >>> >>> > which > >>> >>> > > > release. If I understand you, you would like to keep it based > >>> on > >>> >>> 3.8. > >>> >>> > > This > >>> >>> > > > means that 4.0 would be released in October. It would be > >>> helpful > >>> >>> to fix > >>> >>> > > the > >>> >>> > > > dates so we can plan accordingly. I will start a separate > >>> thread on > >>> >>> > > Monday. > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > David > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > Le sam. 15 juin 2024 à 00:44, Colin McCabe < > cmcc...@apache.org> > >>> a > >>> >>> > écrit > >>> >>> > > : > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > >> +1. I think it would be good to keep 4.0 time-based. Most of > >>> the > >>> >>> > > refactors > >>> >>> > > >> we want to do are optional in some sense and can be descoped > >>> if > >>> >>> time > >>> >>> > > runs > >>> >>> > > >> out. For example, we can drop support for JDK 8 without > >>> >>> immediately > >>> >>> > > >> refactoring everything that could benefit from the > >>> improvements in > >>> >>> > > JDK9+. > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > >> best, > >>> >>> > > >> Colin > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 15:37, Matthias J. Sax wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>> That's my understanding, and I would advocate strongly to > >>> keep > >>> >>> the > >>> >>> > 4.0 > >>> >>> > > >>> release schedule as planed originally. > >>> >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> > > >>> The 3.9 one should really be an additional "out of > schedule" > >>> >>> release > >>> >>> > > not > >>> >>> > > >>> impacting any other releases. > >>> >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> > > >>> -Matthias > >>> >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> > > >>> On 6/14/24 1:29 PM, David Jacot wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>> The plan sounds good to me. I suppose that we will follow > >>> our > >>> >>> > regular > >>> >>> > > >>>> cadence for 4.0 and release it four months after 3.9 (in > >>> >>> November?). > >>> >>> > > Is > >>> >>> > > >>>> this correct? > >>> >>> > > >>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>> Best, > >>> >>> > > >>>> David > >>> >>> > > >>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>> Le ven. 14 juin 2024 à 21:57, José Armando García Sancio > >>> >>> > > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> a écrit : > >>> >>> > > >>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> +1 on the proposed release plan for 3.8. > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> Thanks! > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:33 PM Ismael Juma < > >>> m...@ismaeljuma.com > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> +1 to the plan we converged on in this thread. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> Ismael > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:46 AM Josep Prat > >>> >>> > > >> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Hi all, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks Colin, yes go ahead. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> As we are now past code freeze I would like to ask > >>> everyone > >>> >>> > > involved > >>> >>> > > >>>>> in a > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> KIP that is not yet complete, to verify if what landed > on > >>> >>> the 3.8 > >>> >>> > > >>>>> branch > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> needs to be reverted or if it can stay. Additionally, > >>> I'll be > >>> >>> > > pinging > >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIPs > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> and Jira reporters asking for their status as some > Jiras > >>> >>> seem to > >>> >>> > > have > >>> >>> > > >>>>> all > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> related GitHub PRs merged but their status is still > Open > >>> or > >>> >>> In > >>> >>> > > >>>>> Progress. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> I'll be checking all the open blockers and check if > they > >>> are > >>> >>> > > really a > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> blocker or can be pushed. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Regarding timeline, I'll attempt to generate the first > >>> RC on > >>> >>> > > >> Wednesday > >>> >>> > > >>>>> or > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Thursday, so please revert any changes > >>> >>> > > < > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/,+so+please+revert+any+changes+?entry=gmail&source=g > >>> >>> > >you > >>> >>> > > deem necessary by then. If > >>> >>> > > >>>>> you > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> need more time, please ping me. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Best, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> ----------------- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Josep Prat > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 | aiven.io > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Aiven Deutschland GmbH > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 19:25 Colin McCabe < > >>> cmcc...@apache.org > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> We have had many delays with releases this year. We > >>> should > >>> >>> try > >>> >>> > to > >>> >>> > > >> get > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> back > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> on schedule. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> I agree with the idea that was proposed a few times in > >>> this > >>> >>> > thread > >>> >>> > > >> of > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> drawing a line under 3.8 now, and doing a short 3.9 > >>> >>> release. I > >>> >>> > > >>>>> posted a > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> 3.9 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> release plan here: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> I think we could start doing RCs for 3.8.0 as early as > >>> next > >>> >>> > week. > >>> >>> > > >>>>> There > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are a few things that need to be reverted first > >>> (anything > >>> >>> > related > >>> >>> > > to > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-853 or KIP-966). > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Josep, if you agree, I will update KIP-1012 to reflect > >>> that > >>> >>> > these > >>> >>> > > >>>>> things > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are landing in 3.9 rather than 3.8. And we can start > >>> doing > >>> >>> all > >>> >>> > the > >>> >>> > > >>>>> normal > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> release stuff. The main blocker JIRA I'm aware of is > >>> >>> > KAFKA-16946, > >>> >>> > > >>>>> which > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> is > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> a very simple fix. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> best, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Colin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 03:48, Satish Duggana wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> +1 on going with 3.8 release with the existing plan > and > >>> >>> > targeting > >>> >>> > > >>>>> the > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> required features in 3.9 timelines. 4.0 will be > >>> targeted > >>> >>> in the > >>> >>> > > >>>>> usual > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> cycle(4 months) after 3.9 is released. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 15:19, Edoardo Comar < > >>> >>> > > edoardli...@gmail.com > >>> >>> > > >>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Josep, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> past the deadline sorry but I can't see reasons not > to > >>> >>> > > cherry-pick > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> this > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16326 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:14, Josep Prat > >>> >>> > > >>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Edoardo, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Correct, you can still cherry-pick this one. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll send an email tomorrow morning (CEST) asking > >>> >>> maintainers > >>> >>> > > to > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> stop > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> cherry picking commits unless we discuss it > >>> beforehand. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 6:09 PM Edoardo Comar < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> edoardli...@gmail.com> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep, I understand I am still in time to > >>> >>> cherry-pick on > >>> >>> > > >>>>> 3.8.0 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16229 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> right? > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 11:34, Ivan Yurchenko < > >>> >>> > i...@ivanyu.me> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to do all the fixes and changes for > >>> KIP-899 > >>> >>> [1] > >>> >>> > > >>>>> sooner > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> today, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but please proceed with the release if I don't > >>> manage. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024, at 12:54, Josep Prat wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Jose, also mentioned that it won't be > >>> ready > >>> >>> for > >>> >>> > > >>>>> v3.8.0 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> (but he > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm this). My question now would be, given > >>> that it > >>> >>> > > >>>>> seems > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> we > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> would > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a v3.9.0, do you think it's important to include > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284 in > >>> v3.8.0? > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:40 AM Luke Chen < > >>> >>> > > >>>>> show...@gmail.com > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For KIP-966, I think Calvin had mentioned he > >>> won't > >>> >>> > > >>>>> complete > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> in > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> v3.8.0. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/fsnr8wy5fznzfso7jgk90skgyo277fmw > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For unclean leader election, all we need is > this > >>> PR: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For this PR, I think it needs one more week to > be > >>> >>> > > >>>>> completed. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 4:51 PM Josep Prat > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are now really close to the planned code > >>> freeze > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> deadline > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> (today > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> EOD). > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to KIP-1012 [1] we agreed to stay in > >>> the > >>> >>> 3.x > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> branch > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> until we > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieve feature parity regarding Zookeeper and > >>> >>> KRaft. > >>> >>> > > >>>>> The > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> two main > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified that would achieve this are: > KIP-853 > >>> [2] > >>> >>> > > >>>>> and > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-966 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the moment of writing this email both KIPs > >>> are > >>> >>> not > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> completed. My > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question to the people driving both KIPs would > >>> be, > >>> >>> how > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> much > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> more > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> time do > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it's needed to bring these KIPs to > >>> >>> > > >>>>> completion? > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - If the time needed would be short, we could > >>> still > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> include > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> these > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 KIPs > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - However, if the time needed would be on the > >>> scale > >>> >>> of > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> weeks, we > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> should > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the release plan for 3.8 and > after > >>> >>> start > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> working on > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the 3.9 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts? > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1012%3A+The+need+for+a+Kafka+3.8.x+release > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-853%3A+KRaft+Controller+Membership+Changes > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-966%3A+Eligible+Leader+Replicas > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 10:40 AM Josep Prat < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rajini, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we could backport this one to the 3.8 > >>> branch. > >>> >>> > > >>>>> Would > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> you be > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> able to > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once you merge this PR? > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:53 PM Rajini > >>> Sivaram < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rajinisiva...@gmail.com > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PR > >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277 > >>> >>> > > >>>>> for > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-899 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> looks > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be merged (waiting for the PR build).The > PR > >>> >>> > > >>>>> changes > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> several > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> files, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is relatively straightforward and not risky. > >>> Also > >>> >>> > > >>>>> the > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> changes > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config that is not enabled by default. Since > >>> the > >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> was > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> approved > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP freeze, will it be ok to include in > 3.8.0? > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajini > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:35 AM Josep Pr > >>> >>> > > < > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/11,+2024+at+9:35%E2%80%AFAM+Josep+Pr?entry=gmail&source=g > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > at > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to remind everybody that the > code > >>> >>> > > >>>>> freeze > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> deadline > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching > >>> >>> > > >>>>> < > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E%3E+%3E+approaching?entry=gmail&source=g > >>> >>> > > >>> . > >>> >>> > > >>>>> June 12th EOD is the deadline. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do not autom > >>> >>> > > < > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+Please+do+not+autom?entry=gmail&source=g > >>> >>> > >atically > >>> >>> > > backport any commit > >>> >>> > > >>>>> to > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> the > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> 3.8 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> branch > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> June 12th EOD. Ping me if you think the > >>> commit > >>> >>> > > >>>>> should > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> be > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> backported > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (fixes > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failures in the branch or critical bug > >>> fixes). > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all! > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:43 PM José Armando > >>> >>> > > >>>>> García > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Sancio > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > < > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+?entry=gmail&source=g > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my comments below. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:52 AM Josep > Prat > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I would propose to leave the deadlines > >>> as > >>> >>> > > >>>>> they > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are and > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cherry > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick the comm > >>> >>> > > < > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+pick+the+comm?entry=gmail&source=g > >>> >>> > >its > >>> >>> > > related to KIP-853 and > >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP-966. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your proposal sounds good to me. I suspect > >>> that > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> will > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> be > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development for KIP-853 past the feature > >>> >>> > > >>>>> freeze and > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> code > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe feature development will be finished > >>> >>> > > >>>>> around > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> the end > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of June. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll make sure to cherry pick commits for > >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP-853 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> to > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> the 3.8 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once we have one. > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > >>> > > >>> >>> < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu > >>> >>> > > >>>>> Valtonen > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> > < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu > >>> Valtonen > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> > >>> < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu > >>> Valtonen > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> > < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu > Valtonen > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> < > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>>> -- > >>> >>> > > >>>>> -José > >>> >>> > > >>>>> > >>> >>> > > >>>> > >>> >>> > > >> > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> >> > >>> >> *Josep Prat* > >>> >> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> >> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> >> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | > >>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > >>> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> > >>> >> <https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> >> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> >> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> >> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > >>> >> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> > > >>> > *Josep Prat* > >>> > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > >>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> < > >>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > >>> > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io> > >>> > >>> *Josep Prat* > >>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven* > >>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 > >>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | < > >>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud> > >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> < > >>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > >>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > >>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > >>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > >>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > >>> > >> >