Hi Justine,

Marking MV 3.8-IV0 as latest
production MV is done in this PR (I did both together)
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400

Best,

------------------
Josep Prat
Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497 | aiven.io
Aiven Deutschland GmbH
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 00:52 Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
wrote:

> The PR is merged. I lowered the severity of the blocker ticket as we still
> have the change in trunk to merge. However, the 3.8 release is no longer
> blocked by KAFKA-17050.
> I think that was the remaining blocker. The other ones are either already
> fixed for 3.8 (KAFKA-17011) or diverted to 3.9 (KAFKA-16840)
>
> I think there was one more needed change to mark MV 3.8-IV0 as latest
> production MV. I will follow up with that.
>
> Justine
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:34 PM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Here is the PR: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16478
> >
> > Justine
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:21 PM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey all,
> >> Thanks for your patience. After some discussion, we decided to revert
> >> group version from 3.8 since there were too many complexities associated
> >> with getting it to work.
> >> I've downgraded the severity of KAFKA-17011 to not be a blocker and
> >> opened a ticket (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17050) to
> >> revert from 3.8 (and 3.9) as a blocker instead. I hope to get the PR out
> >> shortly.
> >> This one should be less controversial and merged quickly.
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >> Justine
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 1:22 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to ask again for your help in reviewing these 2 last
> >>> blockers
> >>> for the 3.8.0 release:
> >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400
> >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16420
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:27 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >
> >>> > We currently have a couple of blockers for the 3.8.0 release. These
> are
> >>> > the following:
> >>> > - Reverting commit KAFKA-16154 and mark latest production metadata as
> >>> > 3.8.0: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400
> >>> > - Fix some failing system tests:
> >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16420
> >>> > Can we get some eyes on these 2 PRs? Thanks!
> >>> >
> >>> > To easily track this in feature releases, I created a new label
> called
> >>> > "Blocker" the idea is to mark PRs that are solving an Issue marked as
> >>> > "blocker". This might increase visibility and help getting those
> >>> reviewed
> >>> > promptly. Here is the link to the PRs with this label:
> >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/labels/Blocker
> >>> >
> >>> > Best,
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 7:09 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Thanks for the heads up Justine!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 5:54 PM Justine Olshan
> >>> >> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Sorry to derail this conversation, but just wanted to share we
> have a
> >>> >>> system test blocker with
> >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16990.
> >>> >>> Hopefully we can fix this in the next day or so.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Justine
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:19 PM David Jacot <
> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > I meant it from a time perspective, not from a branching point
> >>> >>> perspective.
> >>> >>> > Sorry for the confusion. As said in the other thread, doing it
> four
> >>> >>> months
> >>> >>> > after 3.9 is desirable for KIP-848 as I expect that we will need
> >>> time
> >>> >>> to
> >>> >>> > stabilize everything after switching all the default configs once
> >>> 3.9
> >>> >>> is
> >>> >>> > cut.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > David
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 19:33, Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> a
> >>> >>> écrit :
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > > Why would 4.0 be based on 3.8? My understanding is, that it
> will
> >>> be
> >>> >>> > > based on 3.9.
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > -Matthias
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > On 6/14/24 11:22 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > I agree that we should keep 4.0 time-based. My question is
> >>> based on
> >>> >>> > which
> >>> >>> > > > release. If I understand you, you would like to keep it based
> >>> on
> >>> >>> 3.8.
> >>> >>> > > This
> >>> >>> > > > means that 4.0 would be released in October. It would be
> >>> helpful
> >>> >>> to fix
> >>> >>> > > the
> >>> >>> > > > dates so we can plan accordingly. I will start a separate
> >>> thread on
> >>> >>> > > Monday.
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > David
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > Le sam. 15 juin 2024 à 00:44, Colin McCabe <
> cmcc...@apache.org>
> >>> a
> >>> >>> > écrit
> >>> >>> > > :
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > >> +1. I think it would be good to keep 4.0 time-based. Most of
> >>> the
> >>> >>> > > refactors
> >>> >>> > > >> we want to do are optional in some sense and can be descoped
> >>> if
> >>> >>> time
> >>> >>> > > runs
> >>> >>> > > >> out. For example, we can drop support for JDK 8 without
> >>> >>> immediately
> >>> >>> > > >> refactoring everything that could benefit from the
> >>> improvements in
> >>> >>> > > JDK9+.
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > > >> best,
> >>> >>> > > >> Colin
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 15:37, Matthias J. Sax wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>> That's my understanding, and I would advocate strongly to
> >>> keep
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> > 4.0
> >>> >>> > > >>> release schedule as planed originally.
> >>> >>> > > >>>
> >>> >>> > > >>> The 3.9 one should really be an additional "out of
> schedule"
> >>> >>> release
> >>> >>> > > not
> >>> >>> > > >>> impacting any other releases.
> >>> >>> > > >>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>
> >>> >>> > > >>> -Matthias
> >>> >>> > > >>>
> >>> >>> > > >>> On 6/14/24 1:29 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>> The plan sounds good to me. I suppose that we will follow
> >>> our
> >>> >>> > regular
> >>> >>> > > >>>> cadence for 4.0 and release it four months after 3.9 (in
> >>> >>> November?).
> >>> >>> > > Is
> >>> >>> > > >>>> this correct?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>> Best,
> >>> >>> > > >>>> David
> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>> Le ven. 14 juin 2024 à 21:57, José Armando García Sancio
> >>> >>> > > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> a écrit :
> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> +1 on the proposed release plan for 3.8.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Thanks!
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:33 PM Ismael Juma <
> >>> m...@ismaeljuma.com
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> +1 to the plan we converged on in this thread.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> Ismael
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:46 AM Josep Prat
> >>> >>> > > >> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks Colin, yes go ahead.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> As we are now past code freeze I would like to ask
> >>> everyone
> >>> >>> > > involved
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> in a
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> KIP that is not yet complete, to verify if what landed
> on
> >>> >>> the 3.8
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> branch
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> needs to be reverted or if it can stay. Additionally,
> >>> I'll be
> >>> >>> > > pinging
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIPs
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> and Jira reporters asking for their status as some
> Jiras
> >>> >>> seem to
> >>> >>> > > have
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> all
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> related GitHub PRs merged but their status is still
> Open
> >>> or
> >>> >>> In
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Progress.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> I'll be checking all the open blockers and check if
> they
> >>> are
> >>> >>> > > really a
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> blocker or can be pushed.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Regarding timeline, I'll attempt to generate the first
> >>> RC on
> >>> >>> > > >> Wednesday
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> or
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Thursday, so please revert any changes
> >>> >>> > > <
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/,+so+please+revert+any+changes+?entry=gmail&source=g
> >>> >>> > >you
> >>> >>> > > deem necessary by then. If
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> you
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> need more time, please ping me.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Best,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> -----------------
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Josep Prat
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497 | aiven.io
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Aiven Deutschland GmbH
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 19:25 Colin McCabe <
> >>> cmcc...@apache.org
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> We have had many delays with releases this year. We
> >>> should
> >>> >>> try
> >>> >>> > to
> >>> >>> > > >> get
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> back
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> on schedule.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> I agree with the idea that was proposed a few times in
> >>> this
> >>> >>> > thread
> >>> >>> > > >> of
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> drawing a line under 3.8 now, and doing a short 3.9
> >>> >>> release. I
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> posted a
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> 3.9
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> release plan here:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> I think we could start doing RCs for 3.8.0 as early as
> >>> next
> >>> >>> > week.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> There
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are a few things that need to be reverted first
> >>> (anything
> >>> >>> > related
> >>> >>> > > to
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-853 or KIP-966).
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Josep, if you agree, I will update KIP-1012 to reflect
> >>> that
> >>> >>> > these
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> things
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are landing in 3.9 rather than 3.8. And we can start
> >>> doing
> >>> >>> all
> >>> >>> > the
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> normal
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> release stuff. The main blocker JIRA I'm aware of is
> >>> >>> > KAFKA-16946,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> which
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> is
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> a very simple fix.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> best,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Colin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 03:48, Satish Duggana wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> +1 on going with 3.8 release with the existing plan
> and
> >>> >>> > targeting
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> the
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> required features in 3.9 timelines. 4.0 will be
> >>> targeted
> >>> >>> in the
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> usual
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> cycle(4 months) after 3.9 is released.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 15:19, Edoardo Comar <
> >>> >>> > > edoardli...@gmail.com
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Josep,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> past the deadline sorry but I can't see reasons not
> to
> >>> >>> > > cherry-pick
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> this
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16326
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:14, Josep Prat
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Edoardo,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Correct, you can still cherry-pick this one.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll send an email tomorrow morning (CEST) asking
> >>> >>> maintainers
> >>> >>> > > to
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> stop
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> cherry picking commits unless we discuss it
> >>> beforehand.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 6:09 PM Edoardo Comar <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> edoardli...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep, I understand I am still in time to
> >>> >>> cherry-pick on
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> 3.8.0
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16229
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> right?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 11:34, Ivan Yurchenko <
> >>> >>> > i...@ivanyu.me>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to do all the fixes and changes for
> >>> KIP-899
> >>> >>> [1]
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> sooner
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> today,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but please proceed with the release if I don't
> >>> manage.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024, at 12:54, Josep Prat wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Jose, also mentioned that it won't be
> >>> ready
> >>> >>> for
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> v3.8.0
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> (but he
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm this). My question now would be, given
> >>> that it
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> seems
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> we
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> would
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a v3.9.0, do you think it's important to include
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284 in
> >>> v3.8.0?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:40 AM Luke Chen <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> show...@gmail.com
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For KIP-966, I think Calvin had mentioned he
> >>> won't
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> complete
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> in
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> v3.8.0.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/fsnr8wy5fznzfso7jgk90skgyo277fmw
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For unclean leader election, all we need is
> this
> >>> PR:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For this PR, I think it needs one more week to
> be
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> completed.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 4:51 PM Josep Prat
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are now really close to the planned code
> >>> freeze
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> deadline
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> (today
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> EOD).
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to KIP-1012 [1] we agreed to stay in
> >>> the
> >>> >>> 3.x
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> branch
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> until we
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieve feature parity regarding Zookeeper and
> >>> >>> KRaft.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> The
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> two main
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified that would achieve this are:
> KIP-853
> >>> [2]
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> and
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-966
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3].
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the moment of writing this email both KIPs
> >>> are
> >>> >>> not
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> completed. My
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question to the people driving both KIPs would
> >>> be,
> >>> >>> how
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> much
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> more
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> time do
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it's needed to bring these KIPs to
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> completion?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - If the time needed would be short, we could
> >>> still
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> include
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> these
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 KIPs
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - However, if the time needed would be on the
> >>> scale
> >>> >>> of
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> weeks, we
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the release plan for 3.8 and
> after
> >>> >>> start
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> working on
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the 3.9
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1012%3A+The+need+for+a+Kafka+3.8.x+release
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-853%3A+KRaft+Controller+Membership+Changes
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-966%3A+Eligible+Leader+Replicas
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 10:40 AM Josep Prat <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rajini,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we could backport this one to the 3.8
> >>> branch.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Would
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> you be
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> able to
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once you merge this PR?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:53 PM Rajini
> >>> Sivaram <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PR
> >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> for
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-899
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> looks
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be merged (waiting for the PR build).The
> PR
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> changes
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> several
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> files,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is relatively straightforward and not risky.
> >>> Also
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> the
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> changes
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config that is not enabled by default. Since
> >>> the
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> was
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> approved
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP freeze, will it be ok to include in
> 3.8.0?
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajini
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:35 AM Josep Pr
> >>> >>> > > <
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/11,+2024+at+9:35%E2%80%AFAM+Josep+Pr?entry=gmail&source=g
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > at
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to remind everybody that the
> code
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> freeze
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> deadline
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> <
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E%3E+%3E+approaching?entry=gmail&source=g
> >>> >>> > > >>> .
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> June 12th EOD is the deadline.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do not autom
> >>> >>> > > <
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+Please+do+not+autom?entry=gmail&source=g
> >>> >>> > >atically
> >>> >>> > > backport any commit
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> to
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> the
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> 3.8
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> June 12th EOD. Ping me if you think the
> >>> commit
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> should
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> be
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> backported
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (fixes
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failures in the branch or critical bug
> >>> fixes).
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all!
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:43 PM José Armando
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> García
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Sancio
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > <
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+?entry=gmail&source=g
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my comments below.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:52 AM Josep
> Prat
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I would propose to leave the deadlines
> >>> as
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> they
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are and
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cherry
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick the comm
> >>> >>> > > <
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+pick+the+comm?entry=gmail&source=g
> >>> >>> > >its
> >>> >>> > > related to KIP-853 and
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP-966.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your proposal sounds good to me. I suspect
> >>> that
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> will
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> be
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development for KIP-853 past the feature
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> freeze and
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> code
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe feature development will be finished
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> around
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> the end
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of June.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll make sure to cherry pick commits for
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP-853
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> to
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> the 3.8
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once we have one.
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |   <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> >>> >
> >>> >>>  <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Valtonen
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
>  <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu
> >>> Valtonen
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |   <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
> >>>  <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu
> >>> Valtonen
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |   <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
>  <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu
> Valtonen
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |   <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>   <
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> --
> >>> >>> > > >>>>> -José
> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> >>> >>> > > >>
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *Josep Prat*
> >>> >> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> >> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> >> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |
> >>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> >>> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
> >>> >> <https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> >> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> >> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> >> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> >>> >> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>> >
> >>> > *Josep Prat*
> >>> > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> > josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |
> >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> >>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>   <
> >>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> >>> > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> >>>
> >>> *Josep Prat*
> >>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> >>> josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497
> >>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>   |   <
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> >>>   <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>   <
> >>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> >>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> >>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> >>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> >>>
> >>
>

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