Hi Josep,
I had run tests for tests/kafkatest/tests/client/quota_test.py based on 3.8
branch, and they all passed.
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Thanks.
Luke
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 6:01 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
wrote:
> Hi Luke,
>
> Thanks for the pointer, if you have an environment where you can run the
> tests I would highly appreciate it!
>
> I managed to run this test suite locally and currently only this one fails
> consistently, the rest pass:
>
> Module: kafkatest.tests.client.quota_test
> Class: QuotaTest
> Method: test_quota
> Arguments:
> {
> "old_client_throttling_behavior": true,
> "quota_type": "client-id"
> }
>
> Failure:
> TimeoutError("Timed out waiting 600 seconds for service nodes to
> finish. These nodes are still alive:
> ['ProducerPerformanceService-0-140496695824336 node 1 on worker3']")
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/venv39/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/ducktape-0.8.14-py3.9.egg/ducktape/tests/runner_client.py",
> line 184, in _do_run
> data = self.run_test()
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/venv39/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/ducktape-0.8.14-py3.9.egg/ducktape/tests/runner_client.py",
> line 262, in run_test
> return self.test_context.function(self.test)
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/venv39/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/ducktape-0.8.14-py3.9.egg/ducktape/mark/_mark.py",
> line 433, in wrapper
> return functools.partial(f, *args, **kwargs)(*w_args, **w_kwargs)
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/kafkatest/tests/client/quota_test.py",
> line 157, in test_quota
> producer.run()
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/venv39/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/ducktape-0.8.14-py3.9.egg/ducktape/services/service.py",
> line 345, in run
> self.wait()
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/venv39/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/ducktape-0.8.14-py3.9.egg/ducktape/services/background_thread.py",
> line 72, in wait
> super(BackgroundThreadService, self).wait(timeout_sec)
> File
> "/home/jlprat/projects/kafka/tests/venv39/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/ducktape-0.8.14-py3.9.egg/ducktape/services/service.py",
> line 293, in wait
> raise TimeoutError("Timed out waiting %s seconds for service nodes
> to finish. " % str(timeout_sec)
> ducktape.errors.TimeoutError: Timed out waiting 600 seconds for
> service nodes to finish. These nodes are still alive:
> ['ProducerPerformanceService-0-140496695824336 node 1 on worker3']
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Josep,
> >
> > For this
> > - QuotaTest --> speaking with Bruno we suspect there is a problem with
> the
> > test setup, failed with "ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence"
> >
> > It's a known issue: KAFKA-16138
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16138> .
> > It should be passed with local specific tests run.
> > Do you want me help verify it by running it in my environment?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Luke
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 4:03 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We have had 2[1][2] runs of the system tests since the last blocker was
> > > merged on 3.8. So far we have 19 tests that failed on both runs. I've
> > > compiled them in this list[3].
> > >
> > > There seems to these different categories of failing tests:
> > > - QuotaTest --> speaking with Bruno we suspect there is a problem with
> > the
> > > test setup, failed with "ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence"
> > > - Streams cooperative rebalance upgrade --> It fails on versions 2.3.1
> or
> > > older, failed with Timeout
> > > - KRaft Upgrade --> from dev with Isolated and combined KRaft, failed
> > with
> > > RemoteCommandError
> > > - Network degrade test -> failed with RemoteCommandError
> > > - Replica verification tool test --> Timeout for KRaft, but ZK failed
> on
> > > the first run but worked on the second
> > >
> > > If someone has further ideas on what could be causing these failures,
> > > please let me know. Given holidays in the US, the possible test setup
> > > problem might not be able to be fixed today.
> > >
> > > [1]:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://confluent-open-source-kafka-system-test-results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/3.8/2024-07-02--001.05d6b151-356a-47e5-b724-6fcd79493422--1719991984--confluentinc--3.8--49d2ee3db9/report.html
> > > [2]:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://confluent-open-source-kafka-branch-builder-system-test-results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/trunk/2024-07-03--001.4803d99b-52df-4f6d-82c2-3f050a6207fa--1720038529--apache--3.8--2fbe32ecb9/report.html
> > > [3]:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbcyzO6GM2SYQaqTMITBTBjHgZgM7mmiAt7TUfh1xt8/edit
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:29 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Thanks for reviewing and merging the latest blockers for 3.8.0.
> > Tomorrow,
> > > > I will start with the process to get the first RC out.
> > > >
> > > > Best!
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 9:04 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Justine,
> > > >>
> > > >> Marking MV 3.8-IV0 as latest
> > > >> production MV is done in this PR (I did both together)
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >>
> > > >> ------------------
> > > >> Josep Prat
> > > >> Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
> > > >> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 | aiven.io
> > > >> Aiven Deutschland GmbH
> > > >> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> > > >> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, 00:52 Justine Olshan
> > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> The PR is merged. I lowered the severity of the blocker ticket as
> we
> > > >>> still
> > > >>> have the change in trunk to merge. However, the 3.8 release is no
> > > longer
> > > >>> blocked by KAFKA-17050.
> > > >>> I think that was the remaining blocker. The other ones are either
> > > already
> > > >>> fixed for 3.8 (KAFKA-17011) or diverted to 3.9 (KAFKA-16840)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think there was one more needed change to mark MV 3.8-IV0 as
> latest
> > > >>> production MV. I will follow up with that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Justine
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:34 PM Justine Olshan <
> jols...@confluent.io
> > >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Here is the PR: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16478
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Justine
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:21 PM Justine Olshan <
> > jols...@confluent.io
> > > >
> > > >>> > wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >> Hey all,
> > > >>> >> Thanks for your patience. After some discussion, we decided to
> > > revert
> > > >>> >> group version from 3.8 since there were too many complexities
> > > >>> associated
> > > >>> >> with getting it to work.
> > > >>> >> I've downgraded the severity of KAFKA-17011 to not be a blocker
> > and
> > > >>> >> opened a ticket (
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17050)
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> >> revert from 3.8 (and 3.9) as a blocker instead. I hope to get
> the
> > PR
> > > >>> out
> > > >>> >> shortly.
> > > >>> >> This one should be less controversial and merged quickly.
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> Thanks again,
> > > >>> >> Justine
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 1:22 AM Josep Prat
> > > >>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> > > >>> >> wrote:
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> Hi all,
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> I just wanted to ask again for your help in reviewing these 2
> > last
> > > >>> >>> blockers
> > > >>> >>> for the 3.8.0 release:
> > > >>> >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400
> > > >>> >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16420
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> Thanks!
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:27 AM Josep Prat <
> josep.p...@aiven.io>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> > Hi all,
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> > We currently have a couple of blockers for the 3.8.0 release.
> > > >>> These are
> > > >>> >>> > the following:
> > > >>> >>> > - Reverting commit KAFKA-16154 and mark latest production
> > > metadata
> > > >>> as
> > > >>> >>> > 3.8.0: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16400
> > > >>> >>> > - Fix some failing system tests:
> > > >>> >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16420
> > > >>> >>> > Can we get some eyes on these 2 PRs? Thanks!
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> > To easily track this in feature releases, I created a new
> label
> > > >>> called
> > > >>> >>> > "Blocker" the idea is to mark PRs that are solving an Issue
> > > marked
> > > >>> as
> > > >>> >>> > "blocker". This might increase visibility and help getting
> > those
> > > >>> >>> reviewed
> > > >>> >>> > promptly. Here is the link to the PRs with this label:
> > > >>> >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/labels/Blocker
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> > Best,
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 7:09 PM Josep Prat <
> > josep.p...@aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >> Thanks for the heads up Justine!
> > > >>> >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 5:54 PM Justine Olshan
> > > >>> >>> >> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> Sorry to derail this conversation, but just wanted to share
> > we
> > > >>> have a
> > > >>> >>> >>> system test blocker with
> > > >>> >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16990.
> > > >>> >>> >>> Hopefully we can fix this in the next day or so.
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> Justine
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 12:19 PM David Jacot <
> > > >>> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> >>> >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > I meant it from a time perspective, not from a branching
> > > point
> > > >>> >>> >>> perspective.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > Sorry for the confusion. As said in the other thread,
> doing
> > > it
> > > >>> four
> > > >>> >>> >>> months
> > > >>> >>> >>> > after 3.9 is desirable for KIP-848 as I expect that we
> will
> > > >>> need
> > > >>> >>> time
> > > >>> >>> >>> to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > stabilize everything after switching all the default
> > configs
> > > >>> once
> > > >>> >>> 3.9
> > > >>> >>> >>> is
> > > >>> >>> >>> > cut.
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > David
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > Le lun. 17 juin 2024 à 19:33, Matthias J. Sax <
> > > >>> mj...@apache.org> a
> > > >>> >>> >>> écrit :
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > Why would 4.0 be based on 3.8? My understanding is,
> that
> > it
> > > >>> will
> > > >>> >>> be
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > based on 3.9.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > -Matthias
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > On 6/14/24 11:22 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > > I agree that we should keep 4.0 time-based. My
> question
> > > is
> > > >>> >>> based on
> > > >>> >>> >>> > which
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > > release. If I understand you, you would like to keep
> it
> > > >>> based
> > > >>> >>> on
> > > >>> >>> >>> 3.8.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > This
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > > means that 4.0 would be released in October. It would
> > be
> > > >>> >>> helpful
> > > >>> >>> >>> to fix
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > > dates so we can plan accordingly. I will start a
> > separate
> > > >>> >>> thread on
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > Monday.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > > David
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > > Le sam. 15 juin 2024 à 00:44, Colin McCabe <
> > > >>> cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > >>> >>> a
> > > >>> >>> >>> > écrit
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > :
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> +1. I think it would be good to keep 4.0 time-based.
> > > Most
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> >>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > refactors
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> we want to do are optional in some sense and can be
> > > >>> descoped
> > > >>> >>> if
> > > >>> >>> >>> time
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > runs
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> out. For example, we can drop support for JDK 8
> > without
> > > >>> >>> >>> immediately
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> refactoring everything that could benefit from the
> > > >>> >>> improvements in
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > JDK9+.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> best,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> Colin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 15:37, Matthias J. Sax
> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> That's my understanding, and I would advocate
> > strongly
> > > to
> > > >>> >>> keep
> > > >>> >>> >>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > 4.0
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> release schedule as planed originally.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> The 3.9 one should really be an additional "out of
> > > >>> schedule"
> > > >>> >>> >>> release
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > not
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> impacting any other releases.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> -Matthias
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> On 6/14/24 1:29 PM, David Jacot wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> The plan sounds good to me. I suppose that we will
> > > >>> follow
> > > >>> >>> our
> > > >>> >>> >>> > regular
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> cadence for 4.0 and release it four months after
> 3.9
> > > (in
> > > >>> >>> >>> November?).
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > Is
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> this correct?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> Best,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> David
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> Le ven. 14 juin 2024 à 21:57, José Armando García
> > > Sancio
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> a écrit :
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> +1 on the proposed release plan for 3.8.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Thanks!
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:33 PM Ismael Juma <
> > > >>> >>> m...@ismaeljuma.com
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> +1 to the plan we converged on in this thread.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> Ismael
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 10:46 AM Josep Prat
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks Colin, yes go ahead.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> As we are now past code freeze I would like to
> > ask
> > > >>> >>> everyone
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > involved
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> in a
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> KIP that is not yet complete, to verify if what
> > > >>> landed on
> > > >>> >>> >>> the 3.8
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> branch
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> needs to be reverted or if it can stay.
> > > Additionally,
> > > >>> >>> I'll be
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > pinging
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIPs
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> and Jira reporters asking for their status as
> > some
> > > >>> Jiras
> > > >>> >>> >>> seem to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > have
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> all
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> related GitHub PRs merged but their status is
> > still
> > > >>> Open
> > > >>> >>> or
> > > >>> >>> >>> In
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Progress.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> I'll be checking all the open blockers and
> check
> > if
> > > >>> they
> > > >>> >>> are
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > really a
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> blocker or can be pushed.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Regarding timeline, I'll attempt to generate
> the
> > > >>> first
> > > >>> >>> RC on
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> Wednesday
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> or
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Thursday, so please revert any changes
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > <
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/,+so+please+revert+any+changes+?entry=gmail&source=g
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >you
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > deem necessary by then. If
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> you
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> need more time, please ping me.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> -----------------
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Josep Prat
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 |
> > aiven.io
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Aiven Deutschland GmbH
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu
> > Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 19:25 Colin McCabe <
> > > >>> >>> cmcc...@apache.org
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> We have had many delays with releases this
> year.
> > > We
> > > >>> >>> should
> > > >>> >>> >>> try
> > > >>> >>> >>> > to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> get
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> back
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> on schedule.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> I agree with the idea that was proposed a few
> > > times
> > > >>> in
> > > >>> >>> this
> > > >>> >>> >>> > thread
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >> of
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> drawing a line under 3.8 now, and doing a
> short
> > > 3.9
> > > >>> >>> >>> release. I
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> posted a
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> 3.9
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> release plan here:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.9.0
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> I think we could start doing RCs for 3.8.0 as
> > > early
> > > >>> as
> > > >>> >>> next
> > > >>> >>> >>> > week.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> There
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are a few things that need to be reverted
> first
> > > >>> >>> (anything
> > > >>> >>> >>> > related
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-853 or KIP-966).
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Josep, if you agree, I will update KIP-1012 to
> > > >>> reflect
> > > >>> >>> that
> > > >>> >>> >>> > these
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> things
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are landing in 3.9 rather than 3.8. And we can
> > > start
> > > >>> >>> doing
> > > >>> >>> >>> all
> > > >>> >>> >>> > the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> normal
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> release stuff. The main blocker JIRA I'm aware
> > of
> > > is
> > > >>> >>> >>> > KAFKA-16946,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> which
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> is
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> a very simple fix.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> best,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Colin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 03:48, Satish Duggana
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> +1 on going with 3.8 release with the
> existing
> > > >>> plan and
> > > >>> >>> >>> > targeting
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> required features in 3.9 timelines. 4.0 will
> be
> > > >>> >>> targeted
> > > >>> >>> >>> in the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> usual
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> cycle(4 months) after 3.9 is released.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 15:19, Edoardo Comar <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > edoardli...@gmail.com
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Josep,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> past the deadline sorry but I can't see
> > reasons
> > > >>> not to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > cherry-pick
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> this
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16326
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:14, Josep Prat
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Edoardo,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Correct, you can still cherry-pick this
> one.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll send an email tomorrow morning (CEST)
> > > asking
> > > >>> >>> >>> maintainers
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> stop
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> cherry picking commits unless we discuss it
> > > >>> >>> beforehand.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 6:09 PM Edoardo
> > Comar <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> edoardli...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep, I understand I am still in time
> to
> > > >>> >>> >>> cherry-pick on
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> 3.8.0
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16229
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> right?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 11:34, Ivan
> > Yurchenko <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > i...@ivanyu.me>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to do all the fixes and changes
> > for
> > > >>> >>> KIP-899
> > > >>> >>> >>> [1]
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> sooner
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> today,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but please proceed with the release if I
> > don't
> > > >>> >>> manage.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024, at 12:54, Josep
> Prat
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Jose, also mentioned that it
> won't
> > > be
> > > >>> >>> ready
> > > >>> >>> >>> for
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> v3.8.0
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> (but he
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm this). My question now would be,
> > > given
> > > >>> >>> that it
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> seems
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> we
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> would
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a v3.9.0, do you think it's important to
> > > >>> include
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284
> > > in
> > > >>> >>> v3.8.0?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:40 AM Luke
> > Chen <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> show...@gmail.com
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For KIP-966, I think Calvin had
> mentioned
> > > he
> > > >>> >>> won't
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> complete
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> in
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> v3.8.0.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/fsnr8wy5fznzfso7jgk90skgyo277fmw
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For unclean leader election, all we
> need
> > is
> > > >>> this
> > > >>> >>> PR:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For this PR, I think it needs one more
> > week
> > > >>> to be
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> completed.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 4:51 PM Josep
> > Prat
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are now really close to the planned
> > > code
> > > >>> >>> freeze
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> deadline
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> (today
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> EOD).
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to KIP-1012 [1] we agreed to
> > > stay
> > > >>> in
> > > >>> >>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> 3.x
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> branch
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> until we
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieve feature parity regarding
> > Zookeeper
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> >>> >>> KRaft.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> The
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> two main
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified that would achieve this
> are:
> > > >>> KIP-853
> > > >>> >>> [2]
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-966
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3].
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the moment of writing this email
> both
> > > >>> KIPs
> > > >>> >>> are
> > > >>> >>> >>> not
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> completed. My
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question to the people driving both
> KIPs
> > > >>> would
> > > >>> >>> be,
> > > >>> >>> >>> how
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> much
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> more
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> time do
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think it's needed to bring these
> > KIPs
> > > to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> completion?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - If the time needed would be short,
> we
> > > >>> could
> > > >>> >>> still
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> include
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> these
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 KIPs
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - However, if the time needed would be
> > on
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> >>> scale
> > > >>> >>> >>> of
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> weeks, we
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> should
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the release plan for 3.8
> > and
> > > >>> after
> > > >>> >>> >>> start
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> working on
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the 3.9
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1012%3A+The+need+for+a+Kafka+3.8.x+release
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-853%3A+KRaft+Controller+Membership+Changes
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-966%3A+Eligible+Leader+Replicas
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 10:40 AM Josep
> > > Prat
> > > >>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rajini,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we could backport this one to
> the
> > > 3.8
> > > >>> >>> branch.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Would
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> you be
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> able to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once you merge this PR?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:53 PM
> Rajini
> > > >>> >>> Sivaram <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PR
> > > >>> >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> for
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> KIP-899
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> looks
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be merged (waiting for the PR
> > > >>> build).The PR
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> changes
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> several
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> files,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is relatively straightforward and
> not
> > > >>> risky.
> > > >>> >>> Also
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> changes
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config that is not enabled by
> default.
> > > >>> Since
> > > >>> >>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> was
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> approved
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP freeze, will it be ok to include
> > in
> > > >>> 3.8.0?
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajini
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:35 AM
> Josep
> > Pr
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > <
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/11,+2024+at+9:35%E2%80%AFAM+Josep+Pr?entry=gmail&source=g
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > at
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to remind everybody
> that
> > > the
> > > >>> code
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> freeze
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> deadline
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E+%3E%3E+%3E+approaching?entry=gmail&source=g
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> .
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> June 12th EOD is the deadline.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do not autom
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > <
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+Please+do+not+autom?entry=gmail&source=g
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >atically
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > backport any commit
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> 3.8
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> June 12th EOD. Ping me if you think
> > the
> > > >>> >>> commit
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> should
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> be
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> backported
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (fixes
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failures in the branch or critical
> > bug
> > > >>> >>> fixes).
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all!
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:43 PM José
> > > >>> Armando
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> García
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> Sancio
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > <
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+?entry=gmail&source=g
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Josep,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my comments below.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:52 AM
> > Josep
> > > >>> Prat
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I would propose to leave the
> > > >>> deadlines
> > > >>> >>> as
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> they
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> are and
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cherry
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick the comm
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > <
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+pick+the+comm?entry=gmail&source=g
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >its
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > related to KIP-853 and
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP-966.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your proposal sounds good to me. I
> > > >>> suspect
> > > >>> >>> that
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> will
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> be
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development for KIP-853 past the
> > > feature
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> freeze and
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> code
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe feature development will be
> > > >>> finished
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> around
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> the end
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of June.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll make sure to cherry pick
> > commits
> > > >>> for
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> KIP-853
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> to
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> the 3.8
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once we have one.
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <
> https://www.aiven.io
> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director,
> > > *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io |
> > > +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io>
> |
> > > <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa &
> > > Hannu
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB
> > 209739
> > > B
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io
> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director,
> > *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io |
> > +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> |
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> > > >
> > > >>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa &
> > Hannu
> > > >>> >>> Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB
> 209739
> > B
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director,
> > *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io |
> +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> |
> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
> > > >>> >>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa &
> > Hannu
> > > >>> >>> Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB
> 209739 B
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director,
> *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
> > > >>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa &
> Hannu
> > > >>> Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> <
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> > >
> > > >>> <
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu
> > > >>> Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>> -José
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>>>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>
> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> > >
> > > >>> >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> >> --
> > > >>> >>> >> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> >> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> >> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> >> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> >> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> |
> > > >>> >>> >> <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> > > >>> >>> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/>
> > > >>> >>> >> <https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> >> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> >> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> >> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> >> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>> >>> >>
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> > --
> > > >>> >>> > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>> > *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> |
> > > >>> >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> > > >>> >>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> <
> > > >>> >>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>> >>> >
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> --
> > > >>> >>> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>> *Josep Prat*
> > > >>> >>> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> > > >>> >>> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > >>> >>> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | <
> > > >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> > > >>> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> <
> > > >>> >>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > >>> >>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > >>> >>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > >>> >>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> > > >>> >>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >>> >>>
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > > >
> > > > *Josep Prat*
> > > > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> > > > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> |
> > > > <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud>
> > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> <
> > > https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
> > >
> > > *Josep Prat*
> > > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> > > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> > > aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | <
> > https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> > > >
> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> <
> > > https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> > > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> > > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> [image: Aiven] <https://www.aiven.io>
>
> *Josep Prat*
> Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
> josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497
> aiven.io <https://www.aiven.io> | <https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> >
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/> <
> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH*
> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
>
