Ron -- I considered making the RPC response and record use the same (or
very similar) fields, but the use case is slightly different. A broker
handling the RPC needs to know the bounds of the block since it has no idea
what the block size is. Also, the brokers will normally see non-contiguous
blocks.

For the metadata log, we can just keep track of the latest producer Id that
was allocated. It's kind of like a high watermark for producer IDs. This
actually saves us from needing an extra field in the record (the KIP has
just ProducerIdEnd => int64 in the record).

Does that make sense?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 8:44 AM Ron Dagostino <rndg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the KIP, David.
>
> With the RPC returning a start and length, should the record in the
> metadata log do the same thing for consistency and to save the byte
> per record?
>
> Ron
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:06 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Great, thanks. Instead of calling it "bridge release", can we say 3.0?
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:48 PM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the feedback, Ismael. Renaming the RPC and using start+len
> > > instead of start+end sounds fine.
> > >
> > > And yes, the controller will allocate the IDs in ZK mode for the bridge
> > > release.
> > >
> > > I'll update the KIP to reflect these points.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:30 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry, one more question: the allocation of ids will be done by the
> > > > controller even in ZK mode, right?
> > > >
> > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:26 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > One additional comment: if you return the number of ids instead of
> the
> > > > end
> > > > > range, you can use an int32.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ismael
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:25 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks for the KIP, David. Any reason not to rename
> > > > >> AllocateProducerIdBlockRequest to AllocateProducerIdsRequest?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ismael
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:51 PM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hello everyone,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'd like to start the discussion for KIP-730
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-730%3A+Producer+ID+generation+in+KRaft+mode
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This KIP proposes a new RPC for generating blocks of IDs for
> > > > >>> transactional
> > > > >>> and idempotent producers.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Cheers,
> > > > >>> David Arthur
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Arthur
> > >
>


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David Arthur

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