Hi Ivan, Yesterday I created an email thread that can be used for this: - http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-feedback-on-the-Ignite-3-0-0-Alpha-td51012.html - http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Looking-for-feedback-on-the-Ignite-3-0-0-Alpha-td35089.html
In addition, we are planning to have a virtual meetup at the end of the month - we can discuss there as well. The meetup will be scheduled soon. -Val On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:25 AM Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Val, Igniters, > > I thought about possible results of such release. How do we expect to > receive feedback? It would be interesting personally for me to see > feedback/results summary. > > 2021-01-01 2:59 GMT+03:00, Valentin Kulichenko < > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>: > > Igniters, > > > > Big thanks to everyone involved in the preparation for this alpha > release! > > > > Throughout this week, the current codebase has been tested on Linux and > > Windows, all the major issues have been resolved, and the Getting Started > > guide has been created. We're now ready for the vote - I will start it > > sometime during the weekend or early next week. > > > > Happy New Year everyone! > > > > -Val > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 3:03 AM Fedor Malchikov <fmalchi...@gridgain.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Valentin, > >> > >> Yes, of course. > >> I closed tickets for fixed issues and created a few more new ones. > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:57 AM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi Fedor, > >> > > >> > Thanks again - you're really helping to improve the quality of the > >> release. > >> > > >> > I've fixed everything except for the progress bar issue - should not > be > >> > a > >> > blocker though, I will move it outside of the alpha if I do not > succeed > >> by > >> > the end of tomorrow. > >> > > >> > Can you please verify that other issues are fixed (especially > >> > IGNITE-13936)? Here is the new staging: > >> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheignite-1500/ > >> > > >> > -Val > >> > > >> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:31 AM Fedor Malchikov > >> > <fmalchi...@gridgain.com > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi Valentin, > >> > > I looked at the resources available on staging and found a number of > >> > > additional issues: > >> > > One blocker: > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13936 > >> > > and three minor: > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13938 > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13937 > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13939 > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:24 PM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > I've also noticed that there is functionality allowing to use > >> > > > custom > >> > > Maven > >> > > > repositories. However, it is available only for the 'module add' > >> > command, > >> > > > but not for the 'init' command. Created a ticket for this as well: > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13923 > >> > > > > >> > > > -Val > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:21 AM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> > > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Fedor, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks for doing this! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Regarding IGNITE-13921: in the first version, the tool created > >> > > > > the > >> > > > folders > >> > > > > in the current directory, which created unpredictable behavior, > >> > > > > so > >> we > >> > > > > switched to home as default. However, using the folder where the > >> tool > >> > > is > >> > > > > located instead of the home folder seems fair - I've included > the > >> > > ticket > >> > > > > into the alpha1. Also, note that in the next versions, there > will > >> be > >> > an > >> > > > > option to customize the paths, so the user will not have to rely > >> > > > > on > >> > > > default > >> > > > > values. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > If you don't mind, I suggest to postpone other issues for > further > >> > > > > development - they do not look so critical. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -Val > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 9:45 AM Fedor Malchikov < > >> > > fmalchi...@gridgain.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> Hello everyone, > >> > > > >> I smoke tested the alpha version of the CLI tool on ubuntu and > >> > > windows. > >> > > > So > >> > > > >> I found the following issues: > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13914 > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13924 > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13921 > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13922 > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13920 > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:18 AM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> > > > >> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Folks, > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I've created a version in Jira and a Wiki page for the alpha > >> > > release: > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+3.0.0-alpha1 > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Based on the scope described earlier, all code changes are > >> > > completed - > >> > > > >> only > >> > > > >> > documentation is left. Code freeze starts now - only bug > fixes > >> are > >> > > > >> > permitted. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I'm planning to start the vote next week, presumably on > >> > > > >> > Tuesday. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > -Val > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:56 AM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> > > > >> > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Ivan, > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Yes, you are correct - no tables, caches, compute or any > >> > > > >> > > other > >> > > major > >> > > > >> > > features will be available. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Alpha releases are generally produced in the middle of the > >> > > > development > >> > > > >> > > process for internal testing. In my view, that's exactly > >> > > > >> > > what > >> > the > >> > > > >> > upcoming > >> > > > >> > > release is, but let me know if you have a better naming in > >> mind. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -Val > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:56 AM Ivan Pavlukhin < > >> > > vololo...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Hi, > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Is it right that suggested Alpha will not be able to > >> > > > >> > >> perform > >> > any > >> > > > >> > >> operations with data (tables, caches)? In that case Alpha > >> > naming > >> > > > >> > >> confuses me. Actually do not know how such kind of demo > >> > releases > >> > > > >> > >> should be attributed. > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2020-12-21 20:42 GMT+03:00, Denis Magda > >> > > > >> > >> <dma...@apache.org>: > >> > > > >> > >> > Certainly, the end of Jan is more realistic and > >> > > > >> > >> > reasonable. > >> > > Let's > >> > > > >> talk > >> > > > >> > >> this > >> > > > >> > >> > out offline and then put a session on the virtual > >> > > > >> > >> > meetup's > >> > > > >> schedule. > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > - > >> > > > >> > >> > Denis > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 4:35 PM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> > > > >> > >> > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> Hi Denis, > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >> Sure, that's a great idea! I'm thinking, however, that > >> > > > >> > >> >> it > >> > > makes > >> > > > >> sense > >> > > > >> > >> to > >> > > > >> > >> >> take a pause after the release and let people try it > out > >> on > >> > > > their > >> > > > >> own > >> > > > >> > >> so > >> > > > >> > >> >> that the experience is as close to real-life as > >> > > > >> > >> >> possible. > >> > How > >> > > > >> about > >> > > > >> > >> >> closer > >> > > > >> > >> >> to the end of January? > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >> -Val > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM Denis Magda < > >> > > dma...@apache.org> > >> > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >> > Hi Val, > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > That's the pace, I'll be happy to play with the alpha > >> and > >> > > > share > >> > > > >> > >> >> > feedback. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > Also, what if we arrange a community gathering after > >> > > > >> > >> >> > the > >> > > > >> holidays > >> > > > >> > to > >> > > > >> > >> >> > demonstrate what alpha does and get more details from > >> the > >> > > > >> involved > >> > > > >> > >> >> > contributors on what's coming next? > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > As for the release process, yes, that needs to be a > >> formal > >> > > > vote > >> > > > >> as > >> > > > >> > >> long > >> > > > >> > >> >> as > >> > > > >> > >> >> > you're publishing artifacts to Maven and updating the > >> > > website > >> > > > >> with > >> > > > >> > >> >> > references to the binaries and documentation pages. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > - > >> > > > >> > >> >> > Denis > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 6:13 PM Valentin Kulichenko < > >> > > > >> > >> >> > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > Igniters, > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > The repository for Ignite 3.x [1] was created less > >> than > >> > a > >> > > > >> month > >> > > > >> > >> ago, > >> > > > >> > >> >> and > >> > > > >> > >> >> > we > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > already have several merged pull requests. Many > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > thanks > >> > to > >> > > > >> > everyone > >> > > > >> > >> >> > involved > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > for the contributions! > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > Currently, we have the following functionality > >> available > >> > > in > >> > > > >> the > >> > > > >> > >> main > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > branch: > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > - New configuration framework which is > compatible > >> > with > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> > HOCON > >> > > > >> > >> >> > format. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > - The “ignite-runner” module, which currently > >> > > > incorporates > >> > > > >> the > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > aforementioned configuration framework and REST > >> > > endpoints > >> > > > >> to > >> > > > >> > >> >> interact > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > with > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > the framework. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > - The first version of the unified CLI tool. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > This set of features does not include any actual > >> Ignite > >> > > > APIs. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > However, > >> > > > >> > >> >> it > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > clearly demonstrates the basic mechanics of how the > >> > > product > >> > > > >> will > >> > > > >> > be > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > installed and upgraded, how the user will interact > >> with > >> > > it, > >> > > > >> etc. > >> > > > >> > I > >> > > > >> > >> >> would > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > like to use this to gather feedback from the > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > community > >> > in > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> > early > >> > > > >> > >> >> > stages. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > To make sure the experience is as close to real > life > >> as > >> > > > >> > possible, I > >> > > > >> > >> >> want > >> > > > >> > >> >> > to > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > deliver what we have as an alpha release, meaning > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > that > >> > all > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > required > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > binaries will be deployed on the website and in > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > Maven. > >> > > There > >> > > > >> will > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > also > >> > > > >> > >> >> be > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > some basic documentation describing how to install > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > and > >> > use > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > product. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > This way, anyone will be able to download the > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > product > >> > and > >> > > > try > >> > > > >> it > >> > > > >> > >> out. > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > My main question here -- do we need a formal vote > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > for > >> > > such a > >> > > > >> > build? > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > Or > >> > > > >> > >> >> it > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > can be treated as a release candidate? > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > Any other thoughts? > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/ignite-3 > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > -Val > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -- > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > > > >> > >> Ivan Pavlukhin > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > Ivan Pavlukhin >
