Maxim, You did the great job! Many thanks for that!
I suppose there is some confusion with terminology. I understand that Ignite release process has several final steps. And for example binaries can be published before documentation is ready and it is ok (I suppose opposite will make no harm as well). My personal understanding is that a product version "is considered released" once a user can receive and use it tagged with the target version. In other words, once it is generally available (GA). And we should not force users to check product web sites and other announcement channels to check that a package available in the Maven repository is valid. For someone it might be just "keeping all dependencies up to date". Best regards, Ivan Pavlukhin чт, 5 мар. 2020 г. в 09:33, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>: > > Ivan, > > I did something wrong? > What should I do to release all effectively? > > On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 08:23, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Ivan, > > > > The release of binaries is one of the final steps. There are still several > > steps left before we can consider all the 2.8 release activities completed: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process#ReleaseProcess-6.3.4.Releasedocumentaiononreadme.io > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process#ReleaseProcess-6.4.Announcerelease > > > > - > > Denis > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:57 PM Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Denis, folks, > > > > > > As it was already mentioned 2.8 is already in maven [1]. Consequently > > > "effectively" released. In my opinion it is not correct to consider > > > release in progress. > > > > > > Agree that 2.8.1 sounds as a proper option here. > > > > > > [1] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.ignite/ignite-core/2.8.0 > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Ivan Pavlukhin > > > > > > ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 17:08, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > Ignite 2.8 will be announced as soon as the documentation is prepared > > > > and > > > > released. Until then, the release is still considered under progress. > > > Here > > > > is a dedicated discussion for documentation activities. We should be > > > ready > > > > soon: > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-2-8-documentation-td46008.html > > > > > > > > Also, I've started a discussion related to our announcement steps. > > > > Please > > > > check it out and get involved: > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-2-8-announcement-plan-td46238.html > > > > > > > > - > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:29 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/ignite/2.8.0/ > > > is > > > > > already there, so release was happened. I'm not sure it is a good idea > > > to > > > > > substitute binaries later. Was it announced to announce@ ? > > > > > > > > > > IMO, 2.8.1 is ok for that case. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 11:29, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > Pavel, ++1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 марта 2020 г., в 11:20, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org> > > > > > > написал(а): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The release has already happened. > > > > > > > It is on our website [1], it is on Maven [2]. > > > > > > > People are using it, so I don't think we can do anything at this > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bugs happen, we can't delay the release forever because of them. > > > Let's > > > > > > fix > > > > > > > things in 2.8.1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://ignite.apache.org/download.cgi > > > > > > > [2] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:06 AM Nikolay Izhikov < > > > nizhi...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello, Igniters. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Do we have a person who can fix this issue in the nearest time? > > > > > > >> Right now IGNITE-12746 is Open and Unassigned. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> 3 марта 2020 г., в 23:54, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> > > > > > написал(а): > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Ilya, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks for catching that and sharing. I wonder if there are any > > > other > > > > > > >>> blockers that were pushed to 2.8.x version. If there are a few > > > then > > > > > we > > > > > > >> can > > > > > > >>> produce 2.8.1 shortly, otherwise, it sounds reasonable to me to > > > fix > > > > > the > > > > > > >>> issue with putAll, update the binaries and finish the process. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> - > > > > > > >>> Denis > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Ilya Kasnacheev < > > > > > > >> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> Hello! > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I have filed an issue > > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12746 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I think this is potentially a game breaker and makes me > > > recommend > > > > > > >> avoiding > > > > > > >>>> 2.8, if we release it without fix (for now). > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> If you are using any partitioned caches, anyway. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> So I suggest we withhold 2.8. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>>> Ilya Kasnacheev > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> вт, 3 мар. 2020 г. в 20:53, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org > > > >: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Ilya, > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> I do not want to force the release no matter what happens, but > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > >>>>> we should release what we have to get feedback not just from > > > the > > > > > > >>>>> developer community but from our users too. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> And fix all these issues in 2.8.1. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 20:33, Ilya Kasnacheev < > > > > > > >> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hello! > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Can we please hold back publishing AI-2.8.0-rc1 as public > > > Apache > > > > > > >> Ignite > > > > > > >>>>> 2.8 > > > > > > >>>>>> release? > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> I have just been notified that > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.GridCacheColocatedDebugTest#testPutsMultithreadedColocated > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.GridCacheColocatedDebugTest#testPutsMultithreadedMixed > > > > > > >>>>>> are flaky: they seem to deadlock on putAll sorted keys maps. > > > They > > > > > > used > > > > > > >>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>> pass solidly on 2.7, but fail on master and ignite-2.8. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> (They fail around 1 time out of 10, so just run them 25 times > > > to > > > > > > >> check) > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> If there is indeed a deadlock, this would become a blocker to > > > this > > > > > > >>>>> release, > > > > > > >>>>>> in my opinion, but I need some time to check. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>>>> -- > > > > > > >>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> вс, 1 мар. 2020 г. в 11:29, Maxim Muzafarov < > > > mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Ivan, > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I agree with you that the more members will check the > > > release the > > > > > > >>>>>>> better will be. That's why I've shared the release candidate > > > > > links > > > > > > >>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>> before starting a vote. The best time for starting a vote is > > > not > > > > > > >>>>>>> mentioned at our release wiki page [2] (should we?) and I've > > > also > > > > > > >>>>>>> failed with googling the best practices for it too. So, I've > > > > > > supposed > > > > > > >>>>>>> since all of us are working on their own tasks during > > > weekdays > > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>> free time on the weekend is the best choice for > > > cheking\voting on > > > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>> release. Probably this decision was wrong. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-8-RELEASE-Time-Scope-Manager-tp43616p46117.html > > > > > > >>>>>>> [2] > > > > > > >>>> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 00:37, Ivan Pavlukhin < > > > vololo...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also I have a comment regarding to voting. Voting for 72 > > > hour > > > > > > >>>>> spanning > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a weekend sounds a little bit odd to me. In a particular > > > case > > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>> more > > > > > > >>>>>>>> people check the release the better. And I suppose there is > > > more > > > > > > >>>> time > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for it on weekdays for the majority. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> вс, 1 мар. 2020 г. в 00:33, Ivan Pavlukhin < > > > vololo...@gmail.com > > > > > >: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> As I remember, that Pavlov suggested to discuss threats > > > on a > > > > > > >>>>> private > > > > > > >>>>>>> PMC list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Cannot understand why it should be discussed on a private > > > list. > > > > > > >>>>> What > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is the clue? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г. в 16:00, Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > > > >>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>> : > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> As I remember, that Pavlov suggested to discuss threats > > > on a > > > > > > >>>>> private > > > > > > >>>>>>> PMC > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г., 15:12 Ilya Kasnacheev < > > > > > > >>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello! > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> As far as my understanding goes, ignite-zookeeper is > > > listed > > > > > > >>>> for > > > > > > >>>>>>> removal > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> because it brings a lot of dependencies, some of which > > > may > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > >>>>>>> known > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities, which will make the distribution also > > > > > > >>>>> considered > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> vulnerable by some scanners. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г. в 14:18, Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > > > >>>>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, lets move to this thread. Also, the slim release > > > could > > > > > > >>>> be > > > > > > >>>>>>> form by > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> voting on user-list > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г., 9:55 Alexey Goncharuk < > > > > > > >>>>>>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikolay, Alexey, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> First, the idea of the slim binary release and docker > > > > > > >>>>> image was > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> discussed > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> openly on the dev-list [1]. Second, nobody talks about > > > > > > >>>>>>> removing these > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> modules from the product. The idea was to create an > > > > > > >>>>> additional > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> distribution > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> which is much lighter than the current full package to > > > > > > >>>>> reduce > > > > > > >>>>>>> the size > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the downloadable artifact and reduce the number of > > > > > > >>>>> potential > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities in third-party libraries. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of modules was chosen subjectively by the > > > number > > > > > > >>>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>> questions > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> on > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the user-list, number third-party libraries (size) and > > > > > > >>>>>>> vulnerabilities > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> module brings. Given that there are still questions, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > >>>> are > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to release it in 2.8.0. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move discussion to the original thread? > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Slim-binary-release-and-docker-image-for-Apache-Ignite-td45110.html > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
